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From: Jamie Lokier <jamie@shareable.org>
To: Anthony Liguori <aliguori@linux.vnet.ibm.com>
Cc: Gautham R Shenoy <ego@in.ibm.com>,
	Qemu-development List <qemu-devel@nongnu.org>,
	"Aneesh Kumar K.V" <aneesh.kumar@linux.vnet.ibm.com>,
	Corentin Chary <corentin.chary@gmail.com>,
	Paolo Bonzini <pbonzini@redhat.com>, Avi Kivity <avi@redhat.com>
Subject: Re: [Qemu-devel] Re: [PATCH V4 2/3] qemu: Generic task offloading framework: threadlets
Date: Wed, 16 Jun 2010 16:07:14 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20100616150714.GA24172@shareable.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20100616145858.GA19642@shareable.org>

Jamie Lokier wrote:
> Anthony Liguori wrote:
> > On 06/16/2010 09:29 AM, Paolo Bonzini wrote:
> > >On 06/16/2010 04:22 PM, Jamie Lokier wrote:
> > >>Paolo Bonzini wrote:
> > >>>These should be (at least for now) block-obj-$(CONFIG_POSIX).
> > >>>
> > >>>>+        while (QTAILQ_EMPTY(&(queue->request_list))&&
> > >>>>+               (ret != ETIMEDOUT)) {
> > >>>>+            ret = qemu_cond_timedwait(&(queue->cond),
> > >>>>+ &(queue->lock), 10*100000);
> > >>>>+        }
> > >>>
> > >>>Using qemu_cond_timedwait is a hack for not properly broadcasting the
> > >>>condvar in flush_threadlet_queue.
> > >>
> > >>Are you sure?  It looks like it also expires idle threads after a
> > >>fixed amount of idle time.
> > >
> > >Unnecessary idle threads are immediately expired as soon as the 
> > >threadlet exits if ncecessary, since here
> > 
> > If a threadlet is waiting to consume more work, unless we do a 
> > pthread_cancel (I dislike cancellation) it will keep waiting until it 
> > gets more work (which would mean it's not actually idle)...
> 
> There's some mild abuse of the mutex/condvar going on.
> 
> As (queue->exit || queue->idle_threads > queue->min_threads) is a
> condition for breaking out of the loop, that condition ought to be
> checked in the mutex->cond_wait region, but it isn't.
> 
> It doesn't matter here because the queue is empty when queue->exit,
> and the idle > min_threads condition can't become true.

Sorry, thinko.  It does matter when queue->exit, precisely because the
queue is empty :-)

Even cond_broadcast after queue->exit is set isn't enough to remove
the need for the timed wait hack.

Putting the whole condition inside the mutex->cond_wait region, not
just empty queue test, will remove the need for timed wait.  Broadcast
is still needed, or alternatively a cond_signal from each exiting
thread will allow them to wake and close without a thundering herd.

-- Jamie

  reply	other threads:[~2010-06-16 15:07 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 27+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2010-06-16 11:56 [Qemu-devel] [PATCH V4 0/3] qemu: Threadlets: A generic task offloading framework Gautham R Shenoy
2010-06-16 11:56 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH V4 1/3] qemu: Add qemu-barrier support to qemu-thread framework Gautham R Shenoy
2010-06-16 14:40   ` [Qemu-devel] " Anthony Liguori
2010-06-16 14:42     ` Paolo Bonzini
2010-06-16 11:56 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH V4 2/3] qemu: Generic task offloading framework: threadlets Gautham R Shenoy
2010-06-16 12:34   ` [Qemu-devel] " Paolo Bonzini
2010-06-16 14:22     ` Jamie Lokier
2010-06-16 14:27       ` Anthony Liguori
2010-06-16 14:29       ` Paolo Bonzini
2010-06-16 14:38         ` Anthony Liguori
2010-06-16 14:52           ` Paolo Bonzini
2010-06-16 15:20             ` Anthony Liguori
2010-06-16 15:47               ` Corentin Chary
2010-06-16 15:52                 ` Anthony Liguori
2010-06-16 16:06                   ` Corentin Chary
2010-06-17  9:16                     ` Gautham R Shenoy
2010-06-17  9:12               ` Gautham R Shenoy
2010-06-16 14:58           ` Jamie Lokier
2010-06-16 15:07             ` Jamie Lokier [this message]
2010-06-16 16:45               ` Paolo Bonzini
2010-06-17  8:53     ` Gautham R Shenoy
2010-06-17 10:09       ` Paolo Bonzini
2010-06-17 18:05         ` Anthony Liguori
2010-06-18  7:52           ` Paolo Bonzini
2010-06-16 11:57 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH V4 3/3] qemu: Convert AIO code to use threadlets Gautham R Shenoy
2010-06-16 13:09 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH V4 0/3] qemu: Threadlets: A generic task offloading framework Anthony Liguori
2010-06-16 13:18   ` Paolo Bonzini

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