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From: Gleb Natapov <gleb@redhat.com>
To: Alexander Graf <agraf@suse.de>
Cc: "Richard W.M. Jones" <rjones@redhat.com>, qemu-devel@nongnu.org
Subject: Re: [Qemu-devel] Question about qemu firmware configuration (fw_cfg) device
Date: Mon, 19 Jul 2010 10:51:10 +0300	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20100719075110.GB4689@redhat.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <4E9BBBA5-F2D1-4485-AFD3-8D6FDE3A3CCC@suse.de>

On Mon, Jul 19, 2010 at 09:40:18AM +0200, Alexander Graf wrote:
> 
> On 19.07.2010, at 09:33, Gleb Natapov wrote:
> 
> > On Mon, Jul 19, 2010 at 08:28:02AM +0100, Richard W.M. Jones wrote:
> >> On Mon, Jul 19, 2010 at 09:23:56AM +0300, Gleb Natapov wrote:
> >>> That what I am warring about too. If we are adding device we have to be
> >>> sure such device can actually exist on real hw too otherwise we may have
> >>> problems later.
> >> 
> >> I don't understand why the constraints of real h/w have anything to do
> >> with this.  Can you explain?
> >> 
> > Each time we do something not architectural it cause us troubles later.
> > So constraints of real h/w is our constrains to.
> > 
> >>> Also 1 second on 100M file does not look like huge gain to me.
> >> 
> >> Every second counts.  We're trying to get libguestfs boot times down
> >> from 8-12 seconds to 4-5 seconds.  For many cases it's an interactive
> >> program.
> >> 
> > So what about making initrd smaller? I remember managing two
> > distribution in 64M flash in embedded project.
> 
> Having a huge initrd basically helps in reusing a lot of existing code. We do the same - in general the initrd is just a subset of the applications of the host OS. And if you start putting perl or the likes into it, it becomes big.
> 
Why not provide small disk/cdrom with all those utilities installed?

> I guess the best thing for now really is to try and see which code paths insb goes along. It should really be coalesced.
> 
It is coalesced to a certain extent (reenter guest every 1024 bytes,
read from userspace page at a time). You need to continue injecting
interrupt into a guest during long string operation and checking
exception condition on a page boundaries.

> Richard, what does kvm_stat tell you while loading the initrd? Are there a lot of PIO requests or are we simply looping inside qemu code?
> 
> 
> Alex

--
			Gleb.

  reply	other threads:[~2010-07-19  7:51 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 56+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2010-07-17  9:50 [Qemu-devel] Question about qemu firmware configuration (fw_cfg) device Richard W.M. Jones
2010-07-17  9:53 ` Richard W.M. Jones
2010-07-18 17:26   ` Alexander Graf
2010-07-18 20:09     ` Richard W.M. Jones
2010-07-18 20:32       ` Alexander Graf
2010-07-19  6:23         ` Gleb Natapov
2010-07-19  7:28           ` Richard W.M. Jones
2010-07-19  7:33             ` Gleb Natapov
2010-07-19  7:40               ` Alexander Graf
2010-07-19  7:51                 ` Gleb Natapov [this message]
2010-07-19  7:57                   ` Alexander Graf
2010-07-19  8:01                     ` Gleb Natapov
2010-07-19  8:08                       ` Alexander Graf
2010-07-19  8:19                         ` Gleb Natapov
2010-07-19  8:24                           ` Alexander Graf
2010-07-19  8:30                             ` Gleb Natapov
2010-07-19  8:41                               ` Alexander Graf
2010-07-19  8:48                                 ` Gleb Natapov
2010-07-19  8:54                                   ` Alexander Graf
2010-07-19  9:00                                     ` Gleb Natapov
2010-07-19  9:02                                       ` Alexander Graf
2010-07-19  9:10                                         ` Gleb Natapov
2010-07-19  9:13                                           ` Alexander Graf
2010-07-19  9:19                                             ` Gleb Natapov
2010-07-19  9:21                                               ` Alexander Graf
2010-07-19  9:32                                                 ` Gleb Natapov
2010-07-19  9:23                                               ` Richard W.M. Jones
2010-07-20 13:15                   ` Jamie Lokier
2010-07-20 13:40                     ` Gleb Natapov
2010-07-20 13:59                       ` Richard W.M. Jones
2010-07-19  9:19                 ` Richard W.M. Jones
2010-07-19  7:44               ` Richard W.M. Jones
2010-07-19  7:55                 ` Gleb Natapov
2010-07-19  8:34                   ` Richard W.M. Jones
2010-07-19  8:40                     ` Gleb Natapov
2010-07-19  9:00                       ` Richard W.M. Jones
2010-07-19  9:04                         ` Richard W.M. Jones
2010-07-19  9:06                         ` Gleb Natapov
2010-07-19  9:09                           ` Alexander Graf
2010-07-19  9:15                             ` Gleb Natapov
2010-07-19  9:16                               ` Alexander Graf
2010-07-19 13:06                               ` Richard W.M. Jones
2010-07-19 13:12                                 ` Gleb Natapov
2010-07-19 14:52                               ` Anthony Liguori
2010-07-19 14:54                                 ` Gleb Natapov
2010-07-19 14:45               ` Anthony Liguori
2010-07-19 14:53                 ` Gleb Natapov
2010-07-19 15:54                   ` Anthony Liguori
2010-07-19 16:11                     ` Gleb Natapov
2010-07-19 16:47                       ` Richard W.M. Jones
2010-07-19 17:04                         ` Gleb Natapov
2010-07-19 19:06                       ` Anthony Liguori
2010-07-19  6:12     ` Gleb Natapov
2010-07-19  6:14 ` [Qemu-devel] " Gleb Natapov
2010-07-20 22:22 ` [Qemu-devel] " Blue Swirl
2010-07-21  7:27   ` Alexander Graf

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