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From: Gleb Natapov <gleb@redhat.com>
To: Alexander Graf <agraf@suse.de>
Cc: "Richard W.M. Jones" <rjones@redhat.com>, qemu-devel@nongnu.org
Subject: Re: [Qemu-devel] Question about qemu firmware configuration (fw_cfg) device
Date: Mon, 19 Jul 2010 11:48:00 +0300	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20100719084800.GI4689@redhat.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <51B0CBDB-E40B-4A14-A33E-34E13B9BF3CB@suse.de>

On Mon, Jul 19, 2010 at 10:41:48AM +0200, Alexander Graf wrote:
> 
> On 19.07.2010, at 10:30, Gleb Natapov wrote:
> 
> > On Mon, Jul 19, 2010 at 10:24:46AM +0200, Alexander Graf wrote:
> >> 
> >> On 19.07.2010, at 10:19, Gleb Natapov wrote:
> >> 
> >> Yes and no. It sounds nice at first, but doesn't quite fit. There are two issues:
> >> 
> >> 1) We need a new PCI ID
> > We have our range. We can allocate from there.
> > 
> >> 2) There can be a lot of initrd binaries with multiboot. We only have a limited amount of BARs
> >> 
> > Is it supported now with fw_cfg interface? My main concern with this
> > approach is huge BAR size that may take a lot of space from PCI MMIO range
> > if guest OS decide to configure it.
> 
> Oh, right. I think I combined all the modules into the INITRD blob. Yeah, that would work. Is coalesced MMIO more efficient than coalesced PIO? Or do we have to do some RAM mapping for those special BAR regions?
> 
I think we will have to do RAM mapping. Otherwise it may be slow to.
Coalesced MMIO is for write not read IIRC.

> Were there DMA capable devices back in ISA times? There must be. If so, we can just take a look at what they do and do it similarly. Bus mastering was a new thing for PCI, right?
> 
I think IDE can be considered DMA capable ISA device, no? At least
it works by writing to PIO ports and getting result into memory, but
with interrupts and status bits and everything that real device should
have. On board DMA engine is also ISA device. 

--
			Gleb.

  reply	other threads:[~2010-07-19  8:48 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 56+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2010-07-17  9:50 [Qemu-devel] Question about qemu firmware configuration (fw_cfg) device Richard W.M. Jones
2010-07-17  9:53 ` Richard W.M. Jones
2010-07-18 17:26   ` Alexander Graf
2010-07-18 20:09     ` Richard W.M. Jones
2010-07-18 20:32       ` Alexander Graf
2010-07-19  6:23         ` Gleb Natapov
2010-07-19  7:28           ` Richard W.M. Jones
2010-07-19  7:33             ` Gleb Natapov
2010-07-19  7:40               ` Alexander Graf
2010-07-19  7:51                 ` Gleb Natapov
2010-07-19  7:57                   ` Alexander Graf
2010-07-19  8:01                     ` Gleb Natapov
2010-07-19  8:08                       ` Alexander Graf
2010-07-19  8:19                         ` Gleb Natapov
2010-07-19  8:24                           ` Alexander Graf
2010-07-19  8:30                             ` Gleb Natapov
2010-07-19  8:41                               ` Alexander Graf
2010-07-19  8:48                                 ` Gleb Natapov [this message]
2010-07-19  8:54                                   ` Alexander Graf
2010-07-19  9:00                                     ` Gleb Natapov
2010-07-19  9:02                                       ` Alexander Graf
2010-07-19  9:10                                         ` Gleb Natapov
2010-07-19  9:13                                           ` Alexander Graf
2010-07-19  9:19                                             ` Gleb Natapov
2010-07-19  9:21                                               ` Alexander Graf
2010-07-19  9:32                                                 ` Gleb Natapov
2010-07-19  9:23                                               ` Richard W.M. Jones
2010-07-20 13:15                   ` Jamie Lokier
2010-07-20 13:40                     ` Gleb Natapov
2010-07-20 13:59                       ` Richard W.M. Jones
2010-07-19  9:19                 ` Richard W.M. Jones
2010-07-19  7:44               ` Richard W.M. Jones
2010-07-19  7:55                 ` Gleb Natapov
2010-07-19  8:34                   ` Richard W.M. Jones
2010-07-19  8:40                     ` Gleb Natapov
2010-07-19  9:00                       ` Richard W.M. Jones
2010-07-19  9:04                         ` Richard W.M. Jones
2010-07-19  9:06                         ` Gleb Natapov
2010-07-19  9:09                           ` Alexander Graf
2010-07-19  9:15                             ` Gleb Natapov
2010-07-19  9:16                               ` Alexander Graf
2010-07-19 13:06                               ` Richard W.M. Jones
2010-07-19 13:12                                 ` Gleb Natapov
2010-07-19 14:52                               ` Anthony Liguori
2010-07-19 14:54                                 ` Gleb Natapov
2010-07-19 14:45               ` Anthony Liguori
2010-07-19 14:53                 ` Gleb Natapov
2010-07-19 15:54                   ` Anthony Liguori
2010-07-19 16:11                     ` Gleb Natapov
2010-07-19 16:47                       ` Richard W.M. Jones
2010-07-19 17:04                         ` Gleb Natapov
2010-07-19 19:06                       ` Anthony Liguori
2010-07-19  6:12     ` Gleb Natapov
2010-07-19  6:14 ` [Qemu-devel] " Gleb Natapov
2010-07-20 22:22 ` [Qemu-devel] " Blue Swirl
2010-07-21  7:27   ` Alexander Graf

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