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From: Gleb Natapov <gleb@redhat.com>
To: "Richard W.M. Jones" <rjones@redhat.com>
Cc: Alexander Graf <agraf@suse.de>, qemu-devel@nongnu.org
Subject: Re: [Qemu-devel] Question about qemu firmware configuration (fw_cfg) device
Date: Mon, 19 Jul 2010 12:06:54 +0300	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20100719090654.GK4689@redhat.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20100719090004.GS13194@amd.home.annexia.org>

On Mon, Jul 19, 2010 at 10:00:04AM +0100, Richard W.M. Jones wrote:
> On Mon, Jul 19, 2010 at 11:40:41AM +0300, Gleb Natapov wrote:
> > On Mon, Jul 19, 2010 at 09:34:11AM +0100, Richard W.M. Jones wrote:
> > > On Mon, Jul 19, 2010 at 10:55:33AM +0300, Gleb Natapov wrote:
> > > > Why not put then on cdrom or disk?
> > > 
> > > It simplifies device and mountpoint enumeration not to have a separate
> > > disk.  It would also mean we couldn't use standard Fedora paths, or
> > > we'd have to have bind-mount /bin etc on to the disk mount point,
> > > which again complicates things.
> > > 
> > Can't help you here, but if it's doable you can speedup your startup
> > time much more then by a second.
> 
> This isn't true.
> 
> The most we could save is 0.8 seconds [time taken to load the 100MB
> initrd by the kernel] less the time taken to probe and mount a CD ISO
But you do not need all 100MB of application, so with disk approach
you load things you need on demand.

> [0.2 seconds - measured using guestfish] less the time taken to load
> programs from this CD.  So the most we could save would be 0.6
> seconds, and in reality it'd be less than this if we actually loaded
> and ran any programs from the CD at all.
> 
> My patch saves 1 second, and all the programs are in RAM.
> 
And it will take 100M of a host ram.

> > Most users load initrd from a disk not by -initrd option.
> 
> It's unusual, but on my production webserver I use -kernel and -initrd
> options explicitly.  That's because I want all my VMs to share a
> single kernel.
> 
How often you restart them?

> virt-install is another program that uses explicit -initrd.
> 
Installation takes a lot of time. Saving 1 second there will not be
noticeable. And during lifetime of installed VM initrd will be loaded
from its disk.

--
			Gleb.

  parent reply	other threads:[~2010-07-19  9:07 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 56+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2010-07-17  9:50 [Qemu-devel] Question about qemu firmware configuration (fw_cfg) device Richard W.M. Jones
2010-07-17  9:53 ` Richard W.M. Jones
2010-07-18 17:26   ` Alexander Graf
2010-07-18 20:09     ` Richard W.M. Jones
2010-07-18 20:32       ` Alexander Graf
2010-07-19  6:23         ` Gleb Natapov
2010-07-19  7:28           ` Richard W.M. Jones
2010-07-19  7:33             ` Gleb Natapov
2010-07-19  7:40               ` Alexander Graf
2010-07-19  7:51                 ` Gleb Natapov
2010-07-19  7:57                   ` Alexander Graf
2010-07-19  8:01                     ` Gleb Natapov
2010-07-19  8:08                       ` Alexander Graf
2010-07-19  8:19                         ` Gleb Natapov
2010-07-19  8:24                           ` Alexander Graf
2010-07-19  8:30                             ` Gleb Natapov
2010-07-19  8:41                               ` Alexander Graf
2010-07-19  8:48                                 ` Gleb Natapov
2010-07-19  8:54                                   ` Alexander Graf
2010-07-19  9:00                                     ` Gleb Natapov
2010-07-19  9:02                                       ` Alexander Graf
2010-07-19  9:10                                         ` Gleb Natapov
2010-07-19  9:13                                           ` Alexander Graf
2010-07-19  9:19                                             ` Gleb Natapov
2010-07-19  9:21                                               ` Alexander Graf
2010-07-19  9:32                                                 ` Gleb Natapov
2010-07-19  9:23                                               ` Richard W.M. Jones
2010-07-20 13:15                   ` Jamie Lokier
2010-07-20 13:40                     ` Gleb Natapov
2010-07-20 13:59                       ` Richard W.M. Jones
2010-07-19  9:19                 ` Richard W.M. Jones
2010-07-19  7:44               ` Richard W.M. Jones
2010-07-19  7:55                 ` Gleb Natapov
2010-07-19  8:34                   ` Richard W.M. Jones
2010-07-19  8:40                     ` Gleb Natapov
2010-07-19  9:00                       ` Richard W.M. Jones
2010-07-19  9:04                         ` Richard W.M. Jones
2010-07-19  9:06                         ` Gleb Natapov [this message]
2010-07-19  9:09                           ` Alexander Graf
2010-07-19  9:15                             ` Gleb Natapov
2010-07-19  9:16                               ` Alexander Graf
2010-07-19 13:06                               ` Richard W.M. Jones
2010-07-19 13:12                                 ` Gleb Natapov
2010-07-19 14:52                               ` Anthony Liguori
2010-07-19 14:54                                 ` Gleb Natapov
2010-07-19 14:45               ` Anthony Liguori
2010-07-19 14:53                 ` Gleb Natapov
2010-07-19 15:54                   ` Anthony Liguori
2010-07-19 16:11                     ` Gleb Natapov
2010-07-19 16:47                       ` Richard W.M. Jones
2010-07-19 17:04                         ` Gleb Natapov
2010-07-19 19:06                       ` Anthony Liguori
2010-07-19  6:12     ` Gleb Natapov
2010-07-19  6:14 ` [Qemu-devel] " Gleb Natapov
2010-07-20 22:22 ` [Qemu-devel] " Blue Swirl
2010-07-21  7:27   ` Alexander Graf

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