From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Received: from [140.186.70.92] (port=35081 helo=eggs.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1Odn1p-0004SL-P1 for qemu-devel@nongnu.org; Tue, 27 Jul 2010 12:29:18 -0400 Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1Odn1o-00055I-JI for qemu-devel@nongnu.org; Tue, 27 Jul 2010 12:29:17 -0400 Received: from mx1.redhat.com ([209.132.183.28]:1025) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1Odn1o-00055E-As for qemu-devel@nongnu.org; Tue, 27 Jul 2010 12:29:16 -0400 Date: Tue, 27 Jul 2010 09:29:13 -0700 From: Chris Wright Subject: Re: [Qemu-devel] Re: KVM call agenda for July 27 Message-ID: <20100727162913.GC7474@x200.localdomain> References: <20100726212849.GB2651@x200.localdomain> <4C4E0C05.5030004@codemonkey.ws> <4C4E1A33.7050709@codemonkey.ws> <4C4ED85B.2090807@codemonkey.ws> <4C4EDEF1.9060507@redhat.com> <4C4EFB04.30901@codemonkey.ws> <4C4F0682.3020400@redhat.com> <20100727162449.GR12387@redhat.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20100727162449.GR12387@redhat.com> List-Id: qemu-devel.nongnu.org List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , To: "Daniel P. Berrange" Cc: Kevin Wolf , Chris Wright , kvm@vger.kernel.org, Markus Armbruster , qemu-devel@nongnu.org, Avi Kivity * Daniel P. Berrange (berrange@redhat.com) wrote: > On Tue, Jul 27, 2010 at 07:17:06PM +0300, Avi Kivity wrote: > > On 07/27/2010 06:28 PM, Anthony Liguori wrote: > > > > > >If we add docs/deprecated-features.txt, schedule removal for at least > > >1 year in the future, and put a warning in the code that prints > > >whenever raw is probed, I think I could warm up to this. > > > > > >Since libvirt should be insulating users from this today, I think the > > >fall out might not be terrible. > > > > On a related note, we should ask libvirt to make qemu stderr output > > available to its users, or perhaps an ABRT plugin to report such > > messages from libvirt's logs. > > QEMU stderr+out is already recorded in /var/lib/libvirt/qemu/$GUESTNAME.log > along with the env variables and argv used to spawn it. Or did you mean > provide an API + virsh command /virt-manager UI for accessing the logs ? I read that to mean...propagate stderr from qemu to be right in front of the user. So that's output from virsh or in virt-manager. Trouble is, that's only useful (at best) when starting a guest. Perhaps some virt-manager thing (an exclamation point to show there's errors in the log and a way to read them), and a virsh utility to match (although that'd require the user to actually poll the interface, at which point they can just as easily just look at the log). thanks, -chris