From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Received: from [140.186.70.92] (port=58065 helo=eggs.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1Odn8c-0008Q5-MX for qemu-devel@nongnu.org; Tue, 27 Jul 2010 12:36:19 -0400 Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1Odn8a-0005vA-HZ for qemu-devel@nongnu.org; Tue, 27 Jul 2010 12:36:18 -0400 Received: from mx1.redhat.com ([209.132.183.28]:20646) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1Odn8a-0005uw-Al for qemu-devel@nongnu.org; Tue, 27 Jul 2010 12:36:16 -0400 Date: Tue, 27 Jul 2010 09:36:11 -0700 From: Chris Wright Subject: Re: [Qemu-devel] Re: KVM call agenda for July 27 Message-ID: <20100727163611.GD7474@x200.localdomain> References: <4C4E1A33.7050709@codemonkey.ws> <4C4ED85B.2090807@codemonkey.ws> <4C4EDEF1.9060507@redhat.com> <4C4EFB04.30901@codemonkey.ws> <4C4F0682.3020400@redhat.com> <20100727162449.GR12387@redhat.com> <20100727162913.GC7474@x200.localdomain> <4C4F0A11.5060204@redhat.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <4C4F0A11.5060204@redhat.com> List-Id: qemu-devel.nongnu.org List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , To: Avi Kivity Cc: Chris Wright , Kevin Wolf , kvm@vger.kernel.org, Markus Armbruster , qemu-devel@nongnu.org * Avi Kivity (avi@redhat.com) wrote: > On 07/27/2010 07:29 PM, Chris Wright wrote: > > > >>QEMU stderr+out is already recorded in /var/lib/libvirt/qemu/$GUESTNAME.log > >>along with the env variables and argv used to spawn it. Or did you mean > >>provide an API + virsh command /virt-manager UI for accessing the logs ? > >I read that to mean...propagate stderr from qemu to be right in front of > >the user. > > Yes, that's what I meant. > > >So that's output from virsh or in virt-manager. Trouble is, > >that's only useful (at best) when starting a guest. Perhaps some > >virt-manager thing (an exclamation point to show there's errors in the > >log and a way to read them), and a virsh utility to match (although > >that'd require the user to actually poll the interface, at which point > >they can just as easily just look at the log). > > If things work there's no reason for the user to go look at the > logs. An exclamation point invites clicking. > > Even better would be an ABRT plugin, so if something goes > (marginally) wrong, the siren pops up and you're invited to report > the bug. Despite some of the ABRT growing pains, ABRT plugin seems like a good idea. I don't know enough of the plugins to know if that requires formatted output and just grepping for some known regexps. thanks, -chris