From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Received: from [140.186.70.92] (port=38841 helo=eggs.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1OdnXJ-0007KQ-2a for qemu-devel@nongnu.org; Tue, 27 Jul 2010 13:01:50 -0400 Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1OdnXH-0001Ex-ND for qemu-devel@nongnu.org; Tue, 27 Jul 2010 13:01:48 -0400 Received: from mx1.redhat.com ([209.132.183.28]:47155) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1OdnXH-0001Eo-GW for qemu-devel@nongnu.org; Tue, 27 Jul 2010 13:01:47 -0400 Date: Tue, 27 Jul 2010 18:01:42 +0100 From: "Daniel P. Berrange" Subject: Re: [Qemu-devel] Re: KVM call agenda for July 27 Message-ID: <20100727170142.GU12387@redhat.com> References: <4C4ED85B.2090807@codemonkey.ws> <4C4EDEF1.9060507@redhat.com> <4C4EFB04.30901@codemonkey.ws> <4C4F0682.3020400@redhat.com> <20100727162449.GR12387@redhat.com> <20100727162913.GC7474@x200.localdomain> <4C4F0A11.5060204@redhat.com> <20100727163611.GD7474@x200.localdomain> <4C4F0C7A.4030309@redhat.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <4C4F0C7A.4030309@redhat.com> Reply-To: "Daniel P. Berrange" List-Id: qemu-devel.nongnu.org List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , To: Avi Kivity Cc: Chris Wright , Kevin Wolf , kvm@vger.kernel.org, qemu-devel@nongnu.org, Markus Armbruster On Tue, Jul 27, 2010 at 07:42:34PM +0300, Avi Kivity wrote: > On 07/27/2010 07:36 PM, Chris Wright wrote: > > > >>If things work there's no reason for the user to go look at the > >>logs. An exclamation point invites clicking. > >> > >>Even better would be an ABRT plugin, so if something goes > >>(marginally) wrong, the siren pops up and you're invited to report > >>the bug. > >Despite some of the ABRT growing pains, ABRT plugin seems like a good > >idea. I don't know enough of the plugins to know if that requires > >formatted output and just grepping for some known regexps. > > It's annoying to us old hands, but it does give that nice integrated > system feel that we're missing, and it works even if virt-manager is in > the background (or if you don't use virt-manager at all). > > Given that there's a kerneloops pluging that presumably does similar > parsing, I don't think it's too hard: > > $ size /usr/lib64/abrt/libKerneloopsScanner.so > text data bss dec hex filename > 18293 1416 16 19725 4d0d > /usr/lib64/abrt/libKerneloopsScanner.so One issue though - a kernel oopps is a clear bug. A failure to start QEMU is often just a mis-configuration, not a bug. We don't want to spa developers with ABRT reports everytime a user misconfigures a guest. Daniel -- |: Red Hat, Engineering, London -o- http://people.redhat.com/berrange/ :| |: http://libvirt.org -o- http://virt-manager.org -o- http://deltacloud.org :| |: http://autobuild.org -o- http://search.cpan.org/~danberr/ :| |: GnuPG: 7D3B9505 -o- F3C9 553F A1DA 4AC2 5648 23C1 B3DF F742 7D3B 9505 :|