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From: Gleb Natapov <gleb@redhat.com>
To: Avi Kivity <avi@redhat.com>
Cc: qemu-devel@nongnu.org, kvm@vger.kernel.org,
	Gerd Hoffmann <kraxel@redhat.com>,
	"Richard W.M. Jones" <rjones@redhat.com>
Subject: Re: [Qemu-devel] Anyone seeing huge slowdown launching qemu with Linux 2.6.35?
Date: Wed, 4 Aug 2010 11:43:42 +0300	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20100804084342.GB10499@redhat.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <4C592218.3000901@redhat.com>

On Wed, Aug 04, 2010 at 11:17:28AM +0300, Avi Kivity wrote:
>  On 08/04/2010 10:56 AM, Gerd Hoffmann wrote:
> >  Hi,
> >
> >>>(1) -M somethingold. PCI devices don't have a pci rom bar then by
> >>>default because they didn't not have one in older qemu versions,
> >>>so we need some other way to pass the option rom to seabios.
> >>
> >>What did we do back then? before we had the fwcfg interface?
> >
> >Have qemu instead of bochs/seabios manage the vgabios/optionrom
> >area (0xc8000 -> 0xe0000) and copy the roms to memory.  Which
> >implies the whole rom has to sit there as PMM can't be used then.
> 
> Do we actually need PMM for isapc?  Did PMM exist before pci?
> 
> >
> >>>(3) roms not associated with a PCI device: multiboot, extboot,
> >>>-option-rom command line switch, vgabios for -M isapc.
> >>
> >>We could lay those out in high memory (4GB-512MB) and have the bios copy
> >>them from there.
> >
> >Yea, we could.  But it is pointless IMHO.
> >
> >$ ls -l *.bin
> >-rwxrwxr-x. 1 kraxel kraxel 1536 Jul 15 15:51 extboot.bin*
> >-rwxrwxr-x. 1 kraxel kraxel 1024 Jul 15 15:51 linuxboot.bin*
> >-rwxrwxr-x. 1 kraxel kraxel 1024 Jul 15 15:51 multiboot.bin*
> >-rwxrwxr-x. 1 kraxel kraxel 8960 Jul 15 15:51 vapic.bin*
> >
> >That are the ones we can't load via pci rom bar.  Look how small
> >they are.
> 
> So they can just sit there?  I'm confused, either there is enough
> address space and we don't need to play games, or there isn't and we
> do.
> 
> For playing games, there are three options:
> - existing fwcfg
> - fwcfg+dma
> - put roms in 4GB-2MB (or whatever we decide the flash size is) and
> have the BIOS copy them
> 
> Existing fwcfg is the least amount of work and probably satisfactory
> for isapc.  fwcfg+dma is IMO going off a tangent.  High memory flash
> is the most hardware-like solution, pretty easy from a qemu point of
> view but requires more work.
> 
We can do interface like that: guest enumerates available roms using
fwcfg. Guest can tell host to map rom into guest specified IOMEM region.
Guest copies rom from IOMEM region and tell host to unmap it.

--
			Gleb.

  reply	other threads:[~2010-08-04  8:43 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 151+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2010-08-03 11:13 [Qemu-devel] Anyone seeing huge slowdown launching qemu with Linux 2.6.35? Richard W.M. Jones
2010-08-03 11:33 ` Gleb Natapov
2010-08-03 12:10   ` Richard W.M. Jones
2010-08-03 12:37     ` Gleb Natapov
2010-08-03 12:48       ` Richard W.M. Jones
2010-08-03 13:19         ` Avi Kivity
2010-08-03 14:05           ` Richard W.M. Jones
2010-08-03 14:38             ` Avi Kivity
2010-08-03 14:53               ` Richard W.M. Jones
2010-08-03 16:10                 ` Avi Kivity
2010-08-03 16:28                   ` Richard W.M. Jones
2010-08-03 16:44                     ` Avi Kivity
2010-08-03 16:46                       ` Anthony Liguori
2010-08-03 16:50                         ` Avi Kivity
2010-08-03 16:53                           ` Anthony Liguori
2010-08-03 17:01                             ` Avi Kivity
2010-08-03 17:42                               ` Anthony Liguori
2010-08-03 17:58                                 ` Avi Kivity
2010-08-03 18:11                                   ` Richard W.M. Jones
2010-08-03 18:26                                   ` Anthony Liguori
2010-08-03 18:43                                     ` Avi Kivity
2010-08-03 18:47                                       ` Avi Kivity
2010-08-03 18:55                                       ` Anthony Liguori
2010-08-03 19:00                                         ` Avi Kivity
2010-08-03 19:05                                       ` Gleb Natapov
2010-08-03 19:09                                         ` Avi Kivity
2010-08-03 19:15                                         ` Anthony Liguori
2010-08-03 19:24                                           ` Avi Kivity
2010-08-03 19:38                                             ` Anthony Liguori
2010-08-03 19:41                                               ` Avi Kivity
2010-08-03 19:47                                                 ` Anthony Liguori
2010-08-04  5:47                                                   ` Avi Kivity
2010-08-03 21:24                                                 ` Gerd Hoffmann
2010-08-03 21:20                                             ` Gerd Hoffmann
2010-08-04  5:53                                               ` Avi Kivity
2010-08-04  7:56                                                 ` Gerd Hoffmann
2010-08-04  8:17                                                   ` Avi Kivity
2010-08-04  8:43                                                     ` Gleb Natapov [this message]
2010-08-04  9:22                                                     ` Gerd Hoffmann
2010-08-04 13:04                                                     ` Anthony Liguori
2010-08-04 13:07                                                       ` Gleb Natapov
2010-08-04 13:15                                                         ` Anthony Liguori
2010-08-04 13:24                                                           ` Richard W.M. Jones
2010-08-04 13:26                                                             ` Gleb Natapov
2010-08-04 14:22                                                               ` Anthony Liguori
2010-08-04 14:38                                                                 ` Gleb Natapov
2010-08-04 14:50                                                                   ` Anthony Liguori
2010-08-04 15:01                                                                     ` Gleb Natapov
2010-08-04 15:07                                                                       ` Anthony Liguori
2010-08-04 15:15                                                                         ` Gleb Natapov
2010-08-04 22:41                                                                       ` Kevin O'Connor
2010-08-04 16:26                                                             ` Avi Kivity
2010-08-04 13:34                                                           ` Gleb Natapov
2010-08-04 13:52                                                             ` Anthony Liguori
2010-08-04 14:00                                                               ` Gleb Natapov
2010-08-04 14:14                                                                 ` Anthony Liguori
2010-08-04 14:36                                                                   ` Gleb Natapov
2010-08-04 14:22                                                                 ` Paolo Bonzini
2010-08-04 14:39                                                                   ` Anthony Liguori
2010-08-04 16:33                                                                     ` Avi Kivity
2010-08-04 16:30                                                               ` Avi Kivity
2010-08-04 16:36                                                                 ` Avi Kivity
2010-08-04 16:44                                                                   ` Anthony Liguori
2010-08-04 16:52                                                                     ` Avi Kivity
2010-08-04 17:37                                                                     ` Gleb Natapov
2010-08-05  7:28                                                                     ` Gerd Hoffmann
2010-08-05  7:34                                                                       ` Gleb Natapov
2010-08-05  7:56                                                                         ` Avi Kivity
2010-08-05  7:59                                                                           ` Gleb Natapov
2010-08-05  8:45                                                                             ` Avi Kivity
2010-08-05  8:48                                                                               ` Gleb Natapov
2010-08-05 13:43                                                                       ` Anthony Liguori
2010-08-04 16:45                                                                   ` Alexander Graf
2010-08-04 16:54                                                                     ` Avi Kivity
2010-08-04 17:01                                                                       ` Alexander Graf
2010-08-04 17:14                                                                         ` Avi Kivity
2010-08-04 17:27                                                                           ` Alexander Graf
2010-08-04 17:34                                                                             ` Avi Kivity
2010-08-04 20:06                                                                               ` David S. Ahern
2010-08-04 20:16                                                                                 ` Richard W.M. Jones
2010-08-05  2:38                                                                                 ` Avi Kivity
2010-08-04 17:26                                                                     ` Anthony Liguori
2010-08-04 17:31                                                                       ` Alexander Graf
2010-08-04 17:35                                                                         ` Avi Kivity
2010-08-04 17:36                                                                         ` Anthony Liguori
2010-08-04 17:36                                                                           ` Alexander Graf
2010-08-04 17:46                                                                   ` Richard W.M. Jones
2010-08-04 17:50                                                                     ` Avi Kivity
2010-08-04 18:13                                                                     ` Alexander Graf
2010-08-04 18:16                                                                       ` Anthony Liguori
2010-08-04 18:18                                                                         ` Alexander Graf
2010-08-04 18:19                                                                         ` Avi Kivity
2010-08-04 18:18                                                                       ` Avi Kivity
2010-08-04 16:42                                                                 ` Anthony Liguori
2010-08-04 13:22                                                         ` Richard W.M. Jones
2010-08-04 13:29                                                           ` Gleb Natapov
2010-08-04 16:25                                                       ` Avi Kivity
2010-08-03 22:06                                             ` Richard W.M. Jones
2010-08-04  5:54                                               ` Avi Kivity
2010-08-04  9:24                                                 ` Richard W.M. Jones
2010-08-04  9:27                                                   ` Gleb Natapov
2010-08-04  9:52                                                   ` Avi Kivity
2010-08-04 11:33                                                     ` Richard W.M. Jones
2010-08-04 11:36                                                       ` Avi Kivity
2010-08-04 12:07                                                       ` Gleb Natapov
2010-08-04 12:59                                                   ` Anthony Liguori
2010-08-03 19:26                                           ` Gleb Natapov
2010-08-03 19:13                                       ` Richard W.M. Jones
2010-08-03 19:17                                         ` Gleb Natapov
2010-08-03 19:19                                         ` Anthony Liguori
2010-08-03 19:22                                         ` Avi Kivity
2010-08-03 20:00                                           ` Richard W.M. Jones
2010-08-03 20:49                                             ` Anthony Liguori
2010-08-03 21:13                                               ` Paolo Bonzini
2010-08-03 21:34                                                 ` Anthony Liguori
2010-08-04  7:57                                                   ` Paolo Bonzini
2010-08-04  8:19                                                     ` Avi Kivity
2010-08-04 12:53                                                     ` Anthony Liguori
2010-08-04 16:44                                                       ` Avi Kivity
2010-08-04 16:46                                                         ` Anthony Liguori
2010-08-04 16:48                                                           ` Alexander Graf
2010-08-04 16:49                                                             ` Anthony Liguori
2010-08-04 16:51                                                               ` Alexander Graf
2010-08-04 17:01                                                               ` Paolo Bonzini
2010-08-04 17:19                                                                 ` Avi Kivity
2010-08-04 17:25                                                                   ` Alexander Graf
2010-08-04 17:27                                                                   ` Anthony Liguori
2010-08-04 17:37                                                                     ` Avi Kivity
2010-08-04 17:53                                                                       ` Anthony Liguori
2010-08-04 18:05                                                                         ` Alexander Graf
2010-08-04  5:56                                               ` Avi Kivity
2010-08-04  1:17                                             ` Jamie Lokier
2010-08-04  8:21                                         ` Avi Kivity
2010-08-04 14:51                                       ` David S. Ahern
2010-08-04 14:57                                         ` Anthony Liguori
2010-08-04 15:25                                           ` Gleb Natapov
2010-08-04 15:31                                             ` Alexander Graf
2010-08-04 15:48                                               ` Gleb Natapov
2010-08-04 15:59                                                 ` Alexander Graf
2010-08-04 16:08                                                   ` Gleb Natapov
2010-08-04 16:48                                                     ` Avi Kivity
2010-08-04 23:17                                             ` Kevin O'Connor
2010-08-05  5:26                                               ` Gleb Natapov
2010-08-03 16:56                           ` Anthony Liguori
2010-08-03 16:48                       ` Avi Kivity
2010-08-03 17:00                         ` Richard W.M. Jones
2010-08-03 17:05                           ` Avi Kivity
2010-08-03 16:56                       ` Richard W.M. Jones
2010-08-03 17:08                         ` Avi Kivity
2010-08-03 16:39                 ` Anthony Liguori
2010-08-03 16:43                   ` Richard W.M. Jones

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