From: Christoph Hellwig <hch@lst.de>
To: Anthony Liguori <anthony@codemonkey.ws>
Cc: Kevin Wolf <kwolf@redhat.com>,
Stefan Hajnoczi <stefanha@gmail.com>,
qemu-devel@nongnu.org, Avi Kivity <avi@redhat.com>,
Stefan Hajnoczi <stefanha@linux.vnet.ibm.com>
Subject: Re: [Qemu-devel] [RFC] qed: Add QEMU Enhanced Disk format
Date: Thu, 9 Sep 2010 22:46:21 +0200 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20100909204621.GB29715@lst.de> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <4C891CC0.1090108@codemonkey.ws>
On Thu, Sep 09, 2010 at 12:43:28PM -0500, Anthony Liguori wrote:
> Define "very large disks".
>
> My target for VM images is 100GB-1TB. Practically speaking, that at
> least covers us for the next 5 years.
We have 2TB SATA disks shipping already, and people tend to produce
more and more "data". I don't think adding such a limit these days
is a good idea at all. It's fine to limit the (tested)implementation
to around 100TB for now, but desining a new image format that doesn't
reach into the petabyte range today is extremly short sightened.
> I can only imagine the use case for qcow2-over-lvm is performance. But
> the performance of QED on a file system is so much better than qcow2
> that you can safely just use a file system and avoid the complexity of
> qcow2 over lvm.
A volume manager has many advantages over an image format. For one it
allows much larger extent allocation sizes, given you much less
fragmentation. There's also lots of infrastructure for dealing with it.
Last but not least using clustered lvm is much simpler than a clustered
filesystem.
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2010-09-09 20:46 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 132+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2010-09-06 10:04 [Qemu-devel] [RFC] qed: Add QEMU Enhanced Disk format Stefan Hajnoczi
2010-09-06 10:25 ` Alexander Graf
2010-09-06 10:31 ` Stefan Hajnoczi
2010-09-06 14:21 ` Luca Tettamanti
2010-09-06 14:24 ` Alexander Graf
2010-09-06 16:27 ` Anthony Liguori
2010-09-06 10:27 ` [Qemu-devel] " Kevin Wolf
2010-09-06 12:40 ` Stefan Hajnoczi
2010-09-06 12:57 ` Anthony Liguori
2010-09-06 13:02 ` Stefan Hajnoczi
2010-09-06 14:10 ` Kevin Wolf
2010-09-06 16:45 ` Anthony Liguori
2010-09-06 12:45 ` Anthony Liguori
2010-09-10 23:49 ` H. Peter Anvin
2010-09-06 11:18 ` [Qemu-devel] " Daniel P. Berrange
2010-09-06 12:52 ` Anthony Liguori
2010-09-06 13:35 ` Daniel P. Berrange
2010-09-06 16:38 ` Anthony Liguori
2010-09-06 13:06 ` Anthony Liguori
2010-09-07 14:51 ` Avi Kivity
2010-09-07 15:40 ` Anthony Liguori
2010-09-07 16:09 ` Avi Kivity
2010-09-07 16:25 ` Anthony Liguori
2010-09-07 22:27 ` Anthony Liguori
2010-09-08 8:23 ` Avi Kivity
2010-09-08 8:41 ` Alexander Graf
2010-09-08 8:53 ` Avi Kivity
2010-09-08 11:15 ` Stefan Hajnoczi
2010-09-08 15:38 ` Christoph Hellwig
2010-09-08 16:30 ` Anthony Liguori
2010-09-08 20:23 ` Christoph Hellwig
2010-09-08 20:28 ` Anthony Liguori
2010-09-09 2:35 ` Christoph Hellwig
2010-09-09 6:24 ` Avi Kivity
2010-09-09 21:01 ` Christoph Hellwig
2010-09-10 11:15 ` Avi Kivity
2010-09-09 6:53 ` Avi Kivity
2010-09-10 21:22 ` Jamie Lokier
2010-09-14 10:46 ` Stefan Hajnoczi
2010-09-14 11:08 ` Stefan Hajnoczi
2010-09-14 12:54 ` Anthony Liguori
2010-09-08 12:55 ` Anthony Liguori
2010-09-09 6:30 ` Avi Kivity
2010-09-08 12:48 ` Anthony Liguori
2010-09-08 13:20 ` Kevin Wolf
2010-09-08 13:26 ` Anthony Liguori
2010-09-08 13:46 ` Kevin Wolf
2010-09-09 6:45 ` Avi Kivity
2010-09-09 6:48 ` Avi Kivity
2010-09-09 12:49 ` Anthony Liguori
2010-09-09 16:48 ` [Qemu-devel] " Paolo Bonzini
2010-09-09 17:02 ` Anthony Liguori
2010-09-09 20:56 ` Christoph Hellwig
2010-09-10 10:53 ` Avi Kivity
2010-09-10 11:14 ` [Qemu-devel] " Avi Kivity
2010-09-10 11:25 ` Avi Kivity
2010-09-10 11:33 ` Stefan Hajnoczi
2010-09-10 11:43 ` Avi Kivity
2010-09-10 13:22 ` Anthony Liguori
2010-09-10 13:48 ` Christoph Hellwig
2010-09-10 15:02 ` Anthony Liguori
2010-09-10 15:18 ` Kevin Wolf
2010-09-10 15:53 ` Anthony Liguori
2010-09-10 16:05 ` Kevin Wolf
2010-09-10 17:10 ` Anthony Liguori
2010-09-10 17:44 ` Kevin Wolf
2010-09-10 17:46 ` Miguel Di Ciurcio Filho
2010-09-10 14:02 ` Avi Kivity
2010-09-10 13:47 ` Christoph Hellwig
2010-09-10 14:05 ` Avi Kivity
2010-09-10 14:12 ` Christoph Hellwig
2010-09-10 14:24 ` Avi Kivity
2010-09-10 13:16 ` Anthony Liguori
2010-09-10 14:06 ` Avi Kivity
2010-09-10 11:43 ` Stefan Hajnoczi
2010-09-10 12:06 ` Avi Kivity
2010-09-10 13:28 ` Anthony Liguori
2010-09-10 12:12 ` Kevin Wolf
2010-09-10 12:35 ` Stefan Hajnoczi
2010-09-10 12:47 ` Avi Kivity
2010-09-10 13:10 ` Stefan Hajnoczi
2010-09-10 13:19 ` Avi Kivity
2010-09-10 13:39 ` Anthony Liguori
2010-09-10 13:52 ` Christoph Hellwig
2010-09-10 13:56 ` Avi Kivity
2010-09-10 13:48 ` Kevin Wolf
2010-09-10 13:14 ` Anthony Liguori
2010-09-10 13:47 ` Avi Kivity
2010-09-10 14:56 ` Anthony Liguori
2010-09-10 15:49 ` Avi Kivity
2010-09-10 17:07 ` Anthony Liguori
2010-09-10 17:42 ` Kevin Wolf
2010-09-10 19:33 ` Anthony Liguori
2010-09-13 10:41 ` Kevin Wolf
2010-09-12 13:24 ` Avi Kivity
2010-09-12 15:13 ` Anthony Liguori
2010-09-12 15:56 ` Avi Kivity
2010-09-12 17:09 ` Anthony Liguori
2010-09-12 17:51 ` Avi Kivity
2010-09-12 20:18 ` Anthony Liguori
2010-09-13 9:24 ` Avi Kivity
2010-09-13 11:28 ` Kevin Wolf
2010-09-13 11:34 ` Avi Kivity
2010-09-13 11:48 ` Kevin Wolf
2010-09-13 13:19 ` Anthony Liguori
2010-09-13 13:12 ` Anthony Liguori
2010-09-13 11:03 ` Kevin Wolf
2010-09-13 13:07 ` Anthony Liguori
2010-09-13 13:24 ` Kevin Wolf
2010-09-07 16:12 ` Anthony Liguori
2010-09-07 21:35 ` Christoph Hellwig
2010-09-07 22:29 ` Anthony Liguori
2010-09-07 22:40 ` Christoph Hellwig
2010-09-08 15:07 ` Stefan Hajnoczi
2010-09-09 6:59 ` Avi Kivity
2010-09-09 17:43 ` Anthony Liguori
2010-09-09 20:46 ` Christoph Hellwig [this message]
2010-09-10 11:22 ` Avi Kivity
2010-09-10 11:29 ` Stefan Hajnoczi
2010-09-10 11:37 ` Avi Kivity
2010-09-07 13:58 ` Avi Kivity
2010-09-07 19:25 ` Blue Swirl
2010-09-07 20:41 ` Anthony Liguori
2010-09-08 7:48 ` Kevin Wolf
2010-09-08 15:37 ` Stefan Hajnoczi
2010-09-08 18:24 ` Blue Swirl
2010-09-08 18:35 ` Anthony Liguori
2010-09-08 18:56 ` Blue Swirl
2010-09-08 19:19 ` Anthony Liguori
2010-09-15 21:01 ` [Qemu-devel] " Michael S. Tsirkin
2010-09-15 21:12 ` Anthony Liguori
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2010-09-17 3:51 [Qemu-devel] " Khoa Huynh
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