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From: Stefan Hajnoczi <stefanha@linux.vnet.ibm.com>
To: Avi Kivity <avi@redhat.com>
Cc: Kevin Wolf <kwolf@redhat.com>,
	Anthony Liguori <aliguori@us.ibm.com>,
	qemu-devel@nongnu.org, Christoph Hellwig <hch@lst.de>
Subject: [Qemu-devel] Re: [PATCH v2 6/7] qed: Read/write support
Date: Mon, 11 Oct 2010 11:37:44 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20101011103743.GB4078@stefan-thinkpad.transitives.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <4CB182F7.8090100@redhat.com>

On Sun, Oct 10, 2010 at 11:10:15AM +0200, Avi Kivity wrote:
>  On 10/08/2010 05:48 PM, Stefan Hajnoczi wrote:
> >This patch implements the read/write state machine.  Operations are
> >fully asynchronous and multiple operations may be active at any time.
> >
> >Allocating writes lock tables to ensure metadata updates do not
> >interfere with each other.  If two allocating writes need to update the
> >same L2 table they will run sequentially.  If two allocating writes need
> >to update different L2 tables they will run in parallel.
> >
> 
> Shouldn't there be a flush between an allocating write and an L2
> update?  Otherwise a reuse of a cluster can move logical sectors
> from one place to another, causing a data disclosure.
> 
> Can be skipped if the new cluster is beyond the physical image size.

Currently clusters are never reused and new clusters are always beyond
physical image size.  The only exception I can think of is when the
image file size is not a multiple of the cluster size and we round down
to the start of cluster.

In an implementation that supports TRIM or otherwise reuses clusters
this is a cost.

> >+
> >+/*
> >+ * Table locking works as follows:
> >+ *
> >+ * Reads and non-allocating writes do not acquire locks because they do not
> >+ * modify tables and only see committed L2 cache entries.
> 
> What about a non-allocating write that follows an allocating write?
> 
> 1 Guest writes to sector 0
> 2 Host reads backing image (or supplies zeros), sectors 1-127
> 3 Host writes sectors 0-127
> 4 Guest writes sector 1
> 5 Host writes sector 1
> 
> There needs to be a barrier that prevents the host and the disk from
> reordering operations 3 and 5, or guest operation 4 is lost.  As far
> as the guest is concerned no overlapping writes were issued, so it
> isn't required to provide any barriers.
> 
> (based on the comment only, haven't read the code)

There is no barrier between operations 3 and 5.  However, operation 5
only starts after operation 3 has completed because of table locking.
It is my understanding that *independent* requests may be reordered but
two writes to the *same* sector will not be reordered if write A
completes before write B is issued.

Imagine a test program that uses pwrite() to rewrite a counter many
times on disk.  When the program finishes it prints the counter
variable's last value.  This scenario is like operations 3 and 5 above.
If we read the counter back from disk it will be the final value, not
some intermediate value.  The writes will not be reordered.

Stefan

  reply	other threads:[~2010-10-11 10:37 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 72+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2010-10-08 15:48 [Qemu-devel] [PATCH v2 0/7] qed: Add QEMU Enhanced Disk format Stefan Hajnoczi
2010-10-08 15:48 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH v2 1/7] qcow2: Make get_bits_from_size() common Stefan Hajnoczi
2010-10-08 18:01   ` [Qemu-devel] " Anthony Liguori
2010-10-08 15:48 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH v2 2/7] cutils: Add bytes_to_str() to format byte values Stefan Hajnoczi
2010-10-11 11:09   ` [Qemu-devel] " Kevin Wolf
2010-10-13  9:15   ` [Qemu-devel] " Markus Armbruster
2010-10-13  9:28     ` Kevin Wolf
2010-10-13 10:58       ` Stefan Hajnoczi
2010-10-13 10:25   ` [Qemu-devel] " Avi Kivity
2010-10-08 15:48 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH v2 3/7] docs: Add QED image format specification Stefan Hajnoczi
2010-10-10  9:20   ` [Qemu-devel] " Avi Kivity
2010-10-11 10:09     ` Stefan Hajnoczi
2010-10-11 13:04       ` Avi Kivity
2010-10-11 13:42         ` Stefan Hajnoczi
2010-10-11 13:44           ` Avi Kivity
2010-10-11 14:06             ` Stefan Hajnoczi
2010-10-11 14:12               ` Avi Kivity
2010-10-11 15:02             ` Anthony Liguori
2010-10-11 15:24               ` Avi Kivity
2010-10-11 15:41                 ` Anthony Liguori
2010-10-11 15:47                   ` Avi Kivity
2010-10-11 14:54         ` Anthony Liguori
2010-10-11 14:58           ` Avi Kivity
2010-10-11 15:49             ` Anthony Liguori
2010-10-11 16:02               ` Avi Kivity
2010-10-11 16:10                 ` Anthony Liguori
2010-10-12 10:25                   ` Avi Kivity
2010-10-11 13:58   ` Kevin Wolf
2010-10-11 15:30     ` Stefan Hajnoczi
2010-10-11 15:39       ` Avi Kivity
2010-10-11 15:46         ` Stefan Hajnoczi
2010-10-11 16:18           ` Anthony Liguori
2010-10-11 17:14             ` Anthony Liguori
2010-10-12  8:07               ` Kevin Wolf
2010-10-12 13:16                 ` Stefan Hajnoczi
2010-10-12 13:32                   ` Anthony Liguori
2010-10-11 15:50       ` Kevin Wolf
2010-10-08 15:48 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH v2 4/7] qed: Add QEMU Enhanced Disk image format Stefan Hajnoczi
2010-10-11 15:16   ` [Qemu-devel] " Kevin Wolf
2010-10-08 15:48 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH v2 5/7] qed: Table, L2 cache, and cluster functions Stefan Hajnoczi
2010-10-12 14:44   ` [Qemu-devel] " Kevin Wolf
2010-10-13 13:41     ` Stefan Hajnoczi
2010-10-08 15:48 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH v2 6/7] qed: Read/write support Stefan Hajnoczi
2010-10-10  9:10   ` [Qemu-devel] " Avi Kivity
2010-10-11 10:37     ` Stefan Hajnoczi [this message]
2010-10-11 13:10       ` Avi Kivity
2010-10-11 13:55         ` Stefan Hajnoczi
2010-10-11 14:57         ` Anthony Liguori
2010-10-12 15:08   ` Kevin Wolf
2010-10-12 15:22     ` Anthony Liguori
2010-10-12 15:39       ` Kevin Wolf
2010-10-12 15:59         ` Stefan Hajnoczi
2010-10-12 16:16           ` Anthony Liguori
2010-10-12 16:21             ` Avi Kivity
2010-10-13 12:13             ` Stefan Hajnoczi
2010-10-13 13:07               ` Kevin Wolf
2010-10-13 13:24                 ` Anthony Liguori
2010-10-13 13:50                   ` Avi Kivity
2010-10-13 14:07                     ` Stefan Hajnoczi
2010-10-13 14:08                       ` Anthony Liguori
2010-10-13 14:10                       ` Avi Kivity
2010-10-13 14:11                         ` Anthony Liguori
2010-10-13 14:16                           ` Avi Kivity
2010-10-13 14:53                             ` Anthony Liguori
2010-10-13 15:08                               ` Avi Kivity
2010-10-13 15:42                                 ` Anthony Liguori
2010-10-14 11:06                         ` Stefan Hajnoczi
2010-10-13 14:10                     ` Anthony Liguori
2010-10-08 15:48 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH v2 7/7] qed: Consistency check support Stefan Hajnoczi
2010-10-11 13:21 ` [Qemu-devel] Re: [PATCH v2 0/7] qed: Add QEMU Enhanced Disk format Kevin Wolf
2010-10-11 15:37   ` Stefan Hajnoczi
2010-10-16  7:51 ` [Qemu-devel] " Stefan Hajnoczi

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