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From: Christoph Hellwig <hch@lst.de>
To: Kevin Wolf <kwolf@redhat.com>
Cc: Markus Armbruster <armbru@redhat.com>,
	qemu-devel@nongnu.org,
	Anthony Liguori <aliguori@linux.vnet.ibm.com>,
	Ryan Harper <ryanh@us.ibm.com>,
	Stefan Hajnoczi <stefan.hajnoczi@uk.ibm.com>,
	Christoph Hellwig <hch@lst.de>
Subject: Re: [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 2/3] v2 Fix Block Hotplug race with drive_unplug()
Date: Sat, 30 Oct 2010 15:25:33 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20101030132533.GA29943@lst.de> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <4CCAF163.1090806@redhat.com>

On Fri, Oct 29, 2010 at 06:08:03PM +0200, Kevin Wolf wrote:
> > I think we've got a bit of a problem.
> > 
> > We have:
> > 
> > 1) bdrv_flush() - sends an fdatasync
> > 
> > 2) bdrv_aio_flush() - sends an fdatasync using the thread pool
> > 
> > 3) qemu_aio_flush() - waits for all pending aio requests to complete
> > 
> > But we use bdrv_aio_flush() to implement a barrier and we don't actually 
> > preserve those barrier semantics in the thread pool.
> 
> Not really. We use it to implement flush commands, which I think don't
> necessarily constitute a barrier by themselves.

Yes.  Just as with normal disks qemu has absolutely no concept of I/O
barriers.  I/O barriers is an abstraction inside the Linux kernel that
we fortunately finally got rid of.

Qemu just gets a cache flush command from the guest and executes it.
Usuaully asynchronously as synchronous block I/O with a single
outstanding request is not very performant.  The filesystem in the guest
handles the ordering around it.

> bdrv_aio_flush, as I understand it, is meant to flush only completed
> writes.

Exactly.  The guest OS tracks writes and only issues a cache flush if
all I/Os it wants to see flushes have been ACKed by the storage hardware
/ qemu.

  reply	other threads:[~2010-10-30 13:25 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 60+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2010-10-25 18:22 [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 0/3] v4 Decouple block device removal from device removal Ryan Harper
2010-10-25 18:22 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 1/3] v2 Add drive_get_by_id Ryan Harper
2010-10-29 13:18   ` Markus Armbruster
2010-10-25 18:22 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 2/3] v2 Fix Block Hotplug race with drive_unplug() Ryan Harper
2010-10-29 14:01   ` Markus Armbruster
2010-10-29 14:15     ` Anthony Liguori
2010-10-29 14:29       ` Kevin Wolf
2010-10-29 14:40         ` Anthony Liguori
2010-10-29 14:57           ` Kevin Wolf
2010-10-29 15:28             ` Anthony Liguori
2010-10-29 16:08               ` Kevin Wolf
2010-10-30 13:25                 ` Christoph Hellwig [this message]
2010-10-29 15:28       ` Markus Armbruster
2010-11-01 21:06     ` Ryan Harper
2010-10-25 18:22 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 3/3] Add qmp version of drive_unplug Ryan Harper
2010-10-29 14:12 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 0/3] v4 Decouple block device removal from device removal Markus Armbruster
2010-10-29 15:03   ` Ryan Harper
2010-10-29 16:10     ` Markus Armbruster
2010-10-29 16:50       ` Ryan Harper
2010-11-02  9:40         ` Markus Armbruster
2010-11-02 13:22           ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2010-11-02 13:41           ` Kevin Wolf
2010-11-02 13:46           ` Ryan Harper
2010-11-02 13:58             ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2010-11-02 14:22               ` Ryan Harper
2010-11-02 15:46                 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2010-11-02 16:53                   ` Ryan Harper
2010-11-02 17:59                     ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2010-11-02 19:01                       ` Ryan Harper
2010-11-02 19:17                         ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2010-11-02 20:23                           ` Ryan Harper
2010-11-03  7:21                             ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2010-11-03 12:04                               ` Ryan Harper
2010-11-03 16:41                                 ` Markus Armbruster
2010-11-03 17:29                                   ` Ryan Harper
2010-11-03 18:02                                     ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2010-11-03 20:59                                       ` Ryan Harper
2010-11-03 21:26                                         ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2010-11-04 16:45                                           ` Ryan Harper
2010-11-04 17:04                                             ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2010-11-05 13:27                                             ` Markus Armbruster
2010-11-05 14:17                                               ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2010-11-05 14:29                                                 ` Ryan Harper
2010-11-05 16:01                                                 ` Markus Armbruster
2010-11-08 21:02                                                   ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2010-11-05 14:25                                               ` Ryan Harper
2010-11-05 16:10                                                 ` Markus Armbruster
2010-11-05 16:22                                                   ` Ryan Harper
2010-11-06  8:18                                                     ` Markus Armbruster
2010-11-08  2:19                                                       ` Ryan Harper
2010-11-08 10:32                                                         ` Markus Armbruster
2010-11-08 10:49                                                           ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2010-11-08 12:03                                                             ` Markus Armbruster
2010-11-08 14:02                                                               ` Ryan Harper
2010-11-08 16:56                                                                 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2010-11-08 17:04                                                                   ` Daniel P. Berrange
2010-11-08 18:41                                                                     ` Ryan Harper
2010-11-08 18:39                                                                   ` Ryan Harper
2010-11-08 19:06                                                                     ` Daniel P. Berrange
2010-11-08 16:34                                                               ` Michael S. Tsirkin

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