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From: Ryan Harper <ryanh@us.ibm.com>
To: Markus Armbruster <armbru@redhat.com>
Cc: Kevin Wolf <kwolf@redhat.com>,
	yamahata@valinux.co.jp, "Michael S. Tsirkin" <mst@redhat.com>,
	qemu-devel@nongnu.org,
	Anthony Liguori <aliguori@linux.vnet.ibm.com>,
	Ryan Harper <ryanh@us.ibm.com>,
	Stefan Hajnoczi <stefan.hajnoczi@uk.ibm.com>
Subject: Re: [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 0/3] v4 Decouple block device removal from device removal
Date: Fri, 5 Nov 2010 11:22:18 -0500	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20101105162218.GM22381@us.ibm.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <m3sjzf92fu.fsf@blackfin.pond.sub.org>

* Markus Armbruster <armbru@redhat.com> [2010-11-05 11:11]:
> Ryan Harper <ryanh@us.ibm.com> writes:
> 
> > * Markus Armbruster <armbru@redhat.com> [2010-11-05 08:28]:
> >> I'd be fine with any of these:
> >> 
> >> 1. A new command "device_disconnet ID" (or similar name) to disconnect
> >>    device ID from any host parts.  Nice touch: you don't have to know
> >>    about the device's host part(s) to disconnect it.  But it might be
> >>    more work than the other two.
> >
> > This is sort of what netdev_del() and drive_unplug() are today; we're
> > just saying sever the connection of this device id.   
> 
> No, I have netdev_del as (3).
> 
> All three options are "sort of" the same, just different commands with
> a common purpose.
> 
> > I'd like to rename drive_unplug() to blockdev_del() and call it done.  I
> > was looking at libvirt and the right call to netdev_del is already
> > in-place; I'd just need to re-spin my block patch to call blockdev_del()
> > after invoking device_del() to match what is done for net.
> 
> Unless I'm missing something, you can't just rename: your unplug does
> not delete the host part.
> 
> >> 2. New commands netdev_disconnect, drive_disconnect (or similar names)
> >>    to disconnect a host part from a guest device.  Like (1), except you
> >>    have to point to the other end of the connection to cut it.
> >
> > What's the advantage here? We need an additional piece of info (host
> > part) in addition to the device id?
> 
> That's a disadvantage.
> 
> Possible advantage: implementation could be slightly easier than (1),
> because you don't have to find the host parts.
> 
> >> 3. A new command "drive_del ID" similar to existing netdev_del.  This is
> >>    (2) fused with delete.  Conceptual wart: you can't disconnect and
> >>    keep the host part around.  Moreover, delete is slightly dangerous,
> >>    because it renders any guest device still using the host part
> >>    useless.
> >
> > Hrm, I thought that's what (1) is.
> 
> No.
> 
> With (1), the argument is a *device* ID, and we disconnect *all* host
> parts connected to this device (typically just one).
> 
> With (3), the argument is a netdev/drive ID, and disconnect *this* host
> part from the peer device.
> 
> >                                     Well, either (1) or (3); I'd like to
> > rename drive_unplug() to blockdev_del() since they're similar function
> > w.r.t removing access to the host resource.  And we can invoke them in
> > the same way from libvirt (after doing guest notification, remove
> > access).
> 
> I'd call it drive_del for now, to match drive_add.

OK, drive_del() and as you mentioned, drive_unplug will take out the
block driver, but doesn't remove the dinfo object; that ends up dying
when we call the device destructor.  I think for symmetry we'll want
drive_del to remove the dinfo object as well.


-- 
Ryan Harper
Software Engineer; Linux Technology Center
IBM Corp., Austin, Tx
ryanh@us.ibm.com

  reply	other threads:[~2010-11-05 16:22 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 60+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2010-10-25 18:22 [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 0/3] v4 Decouple block device removal from device removal Ryan Harper
2010-10-25 18:22 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 1/3] v2 Add drive_get_by_id Ryan Harper
2010-10-29 13:18   ` Markus Armbruster
2010-10-25 18:22 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 2/3] v2 Fix Block Hotplug race with drive_unplug() Ryan Harper
2010-10-29 14:01   ` Markus Armbruster
2010-10-29 14:15     ` Anthony Liguori
2010-10-29 14:29       ` Kevin Wolf
2010-10-29 14:40         ` Anthony Liguori
2010-10-29 14:57           ` Kevin Wolf
2010-10-29 15:28             ` Anthony Liguori
2010-10-29 16:08               ` Kevin Wolf
2010-10-30 13:25                 ` Christoph Hellwig
2010-10-29 15:28       ` Markus Armbruster
2010-11-01 21:06     ` Ryan Harper
2010-10-25 18:22 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 3/3] Add qmp version of drive_unplug Ryan Harper
2010-10-29 14:12 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 0/3] v4 Decouple block device removal from device removal Markus Armbruster
2010-10-29 15:03   ` Ryan Harper
2010-10-29 16:10     ` Markus Armbruster
2010-10-29 16:50       ` Ryan Harper
2010-11-02  9:40         ` Markus Armbruster
2010-11-02 13:22           ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2010-11-02 13:41           ` Kevin Wolf
2010-11-02 13:46           ` Ryan Harper
2010-11-02 13:58             ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2010-11-02 14:22               ` Ryan Harper
2010-11-02 15:46                 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2010-11-02 16:53                   ` Ryan Harper
2010-11-02 17:59                     ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2010-11-02 19:01                       ` Ryan Harper
2010-11-02 19:17                         ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2010-11-02 20:23                           ` Ryan Harper
2010-11-03  7:21                             ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2010-11-03 12:04                               ` Ryan Harper
2010-11-03 16:41                                 ` Markus Armbruster
2010-11-03 17:29                                   ` Ryan Harper
2010-11-03 18:02                                     ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2010-11-03 20:59                                       ` Ryan Harper
2010-11-03 21:26                                         ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2010-11-04 16:45                                           ` Ryan Harper
2010-11-04 17:04                                             ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2010-11-05 13:27                                             ` Markus Armbruster
2010-11-05 14:17                                               ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2010-11-05 14:29                                                 ` Ryan Harper
2010-11-05 16:01                                                 ` Markus Armbruster
2010-11-08 21:02                                                   ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2010-11-05 14:25                                               ` Ryan Harper
2010-11-05 16:10                                                 ` Markus Armbruster
2010-11-05 16:22                                                   ` Ryan Harper [this message]
2010-11-06  8:18                                                     ` Markus Armbruster
2010-11-08  2:19                                                       ` Ryan Harper
2010-11-08 10:32                                                         ` Markus Armbruster
2010-11-08 10:49                                                           ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2010-11-08 12:03                                                             ` Markus Armbruster
2010-11-08 14:02                                                               ` Ryan Harper
2010-11-08 16:56                                                                 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2010-11-08 17:04                                                                   ` Daniel P. Berrange
2010-11-08 18:41                                                                     ` Ryan Harper
2010-11-08 18:39                                                                   ` Ryan Harper
2010-11-08 19:06                                                                     ` Daniel P. Berrange
2010-11-08 16:34                                                               ` Michael S. Tsirkin

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