From: Gleb Natapov <gleb@redhat.com>
To: Markus Armbruster <armbru@redhat.com>
Cc: blauwirbel@gmail.com, alex.williamson@redhat.com,
qemu-devel@nongnu.org, kvm@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [Qemu-devel] [PATCHv2 1/8] Introduce deriver_name field to DeviceInfo structure.
Date: Sat, 6 Nov 2010 13:53:56 +0200 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20101106115356.GF9617@redhat.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <m3zktm25cq.fsf@blackfin.pond.sub.org>
On Sat, Nov 06, 2010 at 10:01:25AM +0100, Markus Armbruster wrote:
[skip]
> > Why should Seabios match against three (or even more) different type of
> > devices to detect ata interface? Why require Seabios changes when this
> > can be avoided (if new device that provide ata is added)? OpenBIOS also
> > supports qemu BTW (this is Open Firmware implementation for pc, you can
> > run and see what kind of device paths it generates).
>
> I think we've finally cut through the confusion caused by the
> unfortunate choice of driver_name for this new device attribute.
>
> The fact that you choose values of your driver_name in a way that is
> inspired by the syntactic conventions of IEEE 1275 is not its
> distinguishing characteristic. The values of existing member name are
> inspired by that as well. driver_name's distinguishing characteristic
> is its purpose: communication with SeaBIOS.
>
My understanding of this name in IEEE 1275 is that it specifies what
driver in FW handles a device.
> I'm fine with you choosing its values however it's convenient for that
> purpose, as long as you give it a name reflecting that purpose. What
> about fw_name and qdev_fw_name()?
>
I am not attached to the name. Can "alias" be used for that purpose?
>
> Next, I'm worried about overloading of method get_dev_path(). It's
> being used for a very specific purpose: savevm/loadvm.
>
This part of the patch is not completed yet. I intend to change the code
in savevm/loadvm to call qdev_get_dev_path() to get full device path
there.
> * It's currently defined only for PCI devices. Your PATCH 7/8 changes
> its value there, from DOMAIN:BUS:SLOT.FUNCTION to FW_NAME@SLOT.
>
Old definition is buggy BTW. BUS part is controlled by a guest and may
be different from default value at destination.
> - The old value identifies the qdev. The new value does not
> (remember, we have a separate qdev per PCI function). Why is this
> okay?
>
No no. New value is FW_NAME@SLOT,FUNC. Spec says that if FUNC is zero it
can be omitted.
> - Is the value saved with the VM? If yes, this is an incompatible
> change.
Don't understand that remark.
>
> * You extend it for ISA and System bus (PATCH 5,6/8). How does this
> affect savevm?
>
We should ask savevm experts. As far as I can see it affects id
creation. As long as id is unique we should be OK. We may send more info
on migration after the patches.
--
Gleb.
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2010-11-06 11:54 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 48+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2010-10-31 11:40 [Qemu-devel] [PATCHv2 0/8 RFC] boot order specification Gleb Natapov
2010-10-31 11:40 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCHv2 1/8] Introduce deriver_name field to DeviceInfo structure Gleb Natapov
2010-11-04 9:20 ` Markus Armbruster
2010-11-04 9:42 ` Gleb Natapov
2010-11-04 14:58 ` Markus Armbruster
2010-11-04 15:44 ` Gleb Natapov
2010-11-05 14:14 ` Markus Armbruster
2010-11-05 15:41 ` Gleb Natapov
2010-11-05 16:24 ` Markus Armbruster
2010-11-05 18:31 ` Gleb Natapov
2010-11-06 9:01 ` Markus Armbruster
2010-11-06 11:53 ` Gleb Natapov [this message]
2010-11-06 12:55 ` Markus Armbruster
2010-10-31 11:40 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCHv2 2/8] Keep track of ISA ports ISA device is using in qdev Gleb Natapov
2010-10-31 11:40 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCHv2 3/8] Add get_dev_path callback to ISA bus " Gleb Natapov
2010-10-31 11:40 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCHv2 4/8] Store IDE bus id in IDEBus structure for easy access Gleb Natapov
2010-11-03 13:39 ` Markus Armbruster
2010-11-03 13:47 ` Gleb Natapov
2010-11-03 15:18 ` Markus Armbruster
2010-11-03 16:43 ` Gleb Natapov
2010-11-03 17:22 ` Markus Armbruster
2010-11-04 8:07 ` Gleb Natapov
2010-11-04 8:46 ` Markus Armbruster
2010-11-04 9:23 ` Gleb Natapov
2010-11-04 14:22 ` Markus Armbruster
2010-11-04 15:26 ` Gleb Natapov
2010-11-05 14:04 ` Markus Armbruster
2010-11-05 15:54 ` Gleb Natapov
2010-11-05 16:31 ` Markus Armbruster
2010-11-05 18:44 ` Gleb Natapov
2010-11-06 9:25 ` Markus Armbruster
2010-11-06 11:37 ` Gleb Natapov
2010-11-06 12:46 ` Markus Armbruster
2010-10-31 11:40 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCHv2 5/8] Add get_dev_path callback to IDE bus Gleb Natapov
2010-10-31 11:40 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCHv2 6/8] Add get_dev_path callback for system bus Gleb Natapov
2010-10-31 11:40 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCHv2 7/8] Change pci bus get_dev_path callback to print only slot and func Gleb Natapov
2010-11-08 17:17 ` [Qemu-devel] " Michael S. Tsirkin
2010-11-08 17:29 ` Gleb Natapov
2010-11-08 18:12 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2010-11-08 18:22 ` Gleb Natapov
2010-11-08 21:00 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2010-11-08 21:12 ` Gleb Natapov
2010-11-08 17:26 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2010-10-31 11:40 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCHv2 8/8] Add bootindex parameter to net/block/fd device Gleb Natapov
2010-10-31 22:25 ` [Qemu-devel] Re: [PATCHv2 0/8 RFC] boot order specification Kevin O'Connor
2010-11-01 7:53 ` Gleb Natapov
2010-11-04 9:24 ` Markus Armbruster
2010-11-04 9:45 ` Gleb Natapov
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