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From: Gleb Natapov <gleb@redhat.com>
To: "Michael S. Tsirkin" <mst@redhat.com>
Cc: kvm@vger.kernel.org, qemu-devel@nongnu.org, armbru@redhat.com,
	Blue Swirl <blauwirbel@gmail.com>,
	alex.williamson@redhat.com, kevin@koconnor.net
Subject: [Qemu-devel] Re: [PATCHv4 15/15] Pass boot device list to firmware.
Date: Thu, 18 Nov 2010 13:45:04 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20101118114504.GI7948@redhat.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20101118113831.GD31261@redhat.com>

On Thu, Nov 18, 2010 at 01:38:31PM +0200, Michael S. Tsirkin wrote:
> On Thu, Nov 18, 2010 at 12:18:27PM +0200, Gleb Natapov wrote:
> > On Wed, Nov 17, 2010 at 09:54:27PM +0000, Blue Swirl wrote:
> > > 2010/11/16 Gleb Natapov <gleb@redhat.com>:
> > > > On Tue, Nov 16, 2010 at 06:30:19PM +0000, Blue Swirl wrote:
> > > >> >> Perhaps the FW path should use device class names if no name is specified.
> > > >> > What do you mean by "device class name". We can do something like this:
> > > >> > if (dev->child_bus.lh_first)
> > > >> >        return dev->child_bus.lh_first->info->name;
> > > >> >
> > > >> > i.e if there is child bus use its bus name as fw name. This will make
> > > >> > all pci devices to have "pci" as fw name automatically. The problem is
> > > >> > that theoretically same device can provide different buses.
> > > >>
> > > >> I meant PCI class name, like "display" for display controllers,
> > > >> "network" for NICs etc.
> > > >>
> > > > That is what my pci bus related patch is doing already.
> > > >
> > > >> >> I'll try Sparc32 to see how this fits there.
> > > >>
> > > >> Except bootindex is not implemented for SCSI.
> > > > Will look into adding it.
> > > 
> > > Thanks. The bootindex on Sparc32 looks like this:
> > > bootindex /esp@0000000078800000/disk@1,0
> > > /ethernet@ffffffffffffffff/ethernet-phy@0
> > > 
> > For arches other then x86 there is a lot of work left to be done :)
> > For starter exotic sparc buses should get their own get_fw_dev_path()
> > implementation.
> > 
> > > I don't think I got Lance setup right.
> > > 
> > > OF paths for the devices would be:
> > > /iommu@0,10000000/sbus@0,10001000/espdma@5,8400000/esp@5,8800000/sd@1,0
> > > /iommu@0,10000000/sbus@0,10001000/ledma@5,8400010/le@5,8c00000
> > If qdev hierarchy does not correspond to real HW there is no much we can
> > do expect for fixing qdev.
> 
> That's bad.  This raises a concern: if these paths expose qdev
> internals, any attempt to fix this will break migration.
> 
The path expose internal HW hierarchy. It is designed to do so. Qdev
designed to do the same: describe HW hierarchy. If qdev fails to do so it
is broken. I do not see connection to migration at all since the path is
not used in migration code.

> > > 
> > > The logic for ESP is that ESP (registers at 0x78800000, slot offset
> > > 0x880000) is handled by the DMA controller (registers at 0x78400000,
> > > slot offset 0x840000), they are in a SBus slot #5, and SBus (registers
> > > at 0x10001000) is in turn handled by IOMMU (registers at 0x10000000).
> > > Lance should be handled the same way.
> > > 
> > > This hierarchy is partly known by QEMU because DMA accesses use this
> > > flow, but not otherwise. There is no concept of SBus slots, DMA talks
> > > to IOMMU directly. Though in this case both ESP, Lance and their DMA
> > > controllers are on board devices in a MACIO chip. It may be possible
> > > to add the hierarchy information at each stage.
> > > 
> > > It should also be possible for BIOS to determine the device just from
> > > the physical address if we ignored OF compatibility.
> > It would be nice to be OF compatible at least at some level. Of course OF
> > spec is not strict enough to have two different implementations produce
> > exactly same device path that can be compared by strcpy.  Can we apply
> > the series now? At least for x86 it provides useful paths and work can
> > be continue for other arches by interested parties.
> > 
> > --
> > 			Gleb.
> 
> Something I only now realized is that we commit
> to never changing the paths for any architecture
> that supports migration.
> 
No connection to migration whatsoever.

--
			Gleb.

  reply	other threads:[~2010-11-18 11:45 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 55+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2010-11-14 15:39 [Qemu-devel] [PATCHv4 00/15] boot order specification Gleb Natapov
2010-11-14 15:39 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCHv4 01/15] Introduce fw_name field to DeviceInfo structure Gleb Natapov
2010-11-14 15:39 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCHv4 02/15] Introduce new BusInfo callback get_fw_dev_path Gleb Natapov
2010-11-14 15:39 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCHv4 03/15] Keep track of ISA ports ISA device is using in qdev Gleb Natapov
2010-11-14 15:39 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCHv4 04/15] Add get_fw_dev_path callback to ISA bus " Gleb Natapov
2010-11-14 15:39 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCHv4 05/15] Store IDE bus id in IDEBus structure for easy access Gleb Natapov
2010-11-14 15:39 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCHv4 06/15] Add get_fw_dev_path callback to IDE bus Gleb Natapov
2010-11-14 15:39 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCHv4 07/15] Add get_dev_path callback for system bus Gleb Natapov
2010-11-14 15:39 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCHv4 08/15] Add get_fw_dev_path callback for pci bus Gleb Natapov
2010-11-14 18:27   ` [Qemu-devel] " Michael S. Tsirkin
2010-11-14 18:42     ` Gleb Natapov
2010-11-14 15:39 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCHv4 09/15] Record which USBDevice USBPort belongs too Gleb Natapov
2010-11-14 15:39 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCHv4 10/15] Add get_dev_path callback for usb bus Gleb Natapov
2010-11-14 15:39 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCHv4 11/15] Add bootindex parameter to net/block/fd device Gleb Natapov
2010-11-14 15:39 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCHv4 12/15] Change fw_cfg_add_file() to get full file path as a parameter Gleb Natapov
2010-11-14 15:39 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCHv4 13/15] Add bootindex for option roms Gleb Natapov
2010-11-14 21:33   ` [Qemu-devel] " Blue Swirl
2010-11-15 10:18     ` Gleb Natapov
2010-11-14 15:39 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCHv4 14/15] Add notifier that will be called when machine is fully created Gleb Natapov
2010-11-14 15:39 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCHv4 15/15] Pass boot device list to firmware Gleb Natapov
2010-11-14 18:41   ` [Qemu-devel] " Michael S. Tsirkin
2010-11-14 18:52     ` Gleb Natapov
2010-11-14 20:56       ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2010-11-14 20:57       ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2010-11-14 20:49   ` Blue Swirl
2010-11-14 20:54     ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2010-11-14 21:13       ` Blue Swirl
2010-11-14 21:45         ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2010-11-14 22:50   ` Blue Swirl
2010-11-15  8:42     ` Gleb Natapov
2010-11-15 20:29       ` Blue Swirl
2010-11-16 14:11         ` Gleb Natapov
2010-11-16 18:30           ` Blue Swirl
2010-11-16 19:02             ` Gleb Natapov
2010-11-17 21:54               ` Blue Swirl
2010-11-18 10:18                 ` Gleb Natapov
2010-11-18 11:38                   ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2010-11-18 11:45                     ` Gleb Natapov [this message]
2010-11-18 11:52                       ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2010-11-18 12:16                         ` Gleb Natapov
2010-11-18 12:23                           ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2010-11-18 12:37                             ` Gleb Natapov
2010-11-18 13:12                               ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2010-11-18 13:16                                 ` Gleb Natapov
2010-11-15  3:40   ` Kevin O'Connor
2010-11-15  7:40     ` Gleb Natapov
2010-11-15  7:53       ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2010-11-15  8:09         ` Gleb Natapov
2010-11-15 13:26       ` Kevin O'Connor
2010-11-15 13:36         ` Gleb Natapov
2010-11-15 13:46           ` Gleb Natapov
2010-11-16  2:52           ` Kevin O'Connor
2010-11-16  7:22             ` Gleb Natapov
2010-11-16 13:49               ` Kevin O'Connor
2010-11-16 18:19               ` Blue Swirl

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