From: Gleb Natapov <gleb@redhat.com>
To: "Michael S. Tsirkin" <mst@redhat.com>
Cc: Isaku Yamahata <yamahata@valinux.co.jp>,
Alex Williamson <alex.williamson@redhat.com>,
Markus Armbruster <armbru@redhat.com>,
qemu-devel@nongnu.org
Subject: Re: [Qemu-devel] Re: [PATCH] PCI: Bus number from the bridge, not the device
Date: Mon, 22 Nov 2010 16:58:11 +0200 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20101122145811.GM7948@redhat.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20101122145616.GC30157@redhat.com>
On Mon, Nov 22, 2010 at 04:56:16PM +0200, Michael S. Tsirkin wrote:
> On Mon, Nov 22, 2010 at 04:52:32PM +0200, Gleb Natapov wrote:
> > On Mon, Nov 22, 2010 at 04:50:29PM +0200, Michael S. Tsirkin wrote:
> > > On Mon, Nov 22, 2010 at 03:04:51PM +0200, Gleb Natapov wrote:
> > > > On Mon, Nov 22, 2010 at 10:16:57AM +0200, Michael S. Tsirkin wrote:
> > > > > On Mon, Nov 22, 2010 at 09:37:07AM +0200, Gleb Natapov wrote:
> > > > > > > > > It's probably required to make them stable anyway.
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > Why?
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > To avoid bus renumbering on reboot after you add a pci-to-pci bridge.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > Why should qemu care?
> > > > >
> > > > > Stable bus numbering is a feature *users* care about, because
> > > > > some Guest OSes get confused when a card gets moved to another
> > > > > bus.
> > > > >
> > > > So if user cares about it it should not change HW configuration of QEMU.
> > > > I guess those OSes knows how to handle hot-pluggable equipment otherwise
> > > > they will get confused on real HW too. Why QEMU should care to preserve
> > > > something in a face of configuration change?
> > > >
> > > > --
> > > > Gleb.
> > >
> > > We've been there, weren't we? See
> > > http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Features/KVM_Stable_PCI_Addresses#KVM_Stable_PCI_Addresses
> > >
> > This is about stable HW configuration.
>
> Exactly. We have the same need for nested bridges and devices behind
> them.
>
And now you are talking about topology, not guest assigned bus numbers.
So suddenly you are on my side? I don't even get what are you arguing
about at this point.
--
Gleb.
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2010-11-22 14:58 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 48+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2010-10-04 21:53 [Qemu-devel] [PATCH] PCI: Bus number from the bridge, not the device Alex Williamson
2010-11-08 11:22 ` [Qemu-devel] " Michael S. Tsirkin
2010-11-08 14:52 ` Alex Williamson
2010-11-08 16:26 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2010-11-08 16:36 ` Alex Williamson
2010-11-08 16:48 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2010-11-08 17:00 ` Gleb Natapov
2010-11-08 17:08 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2010-11-08 17:27 ` Gleb Natapov
2010-11-09 2:41 ` Isaku Yamahata
2010-11-09 11:53 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2010-11-19 17:02 ` Markus Armbruster
2010-11-19 20:38 ` Gleb Natapov
2010-11-20 20:17 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2010-11-21 8:32 ` Gleb Natapov
2010-11-21 9:50 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2010-11-21 10:19 ` Gleb Natapov
2010-11-21 11:53 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2010-11-21 12:50 ` Gleb Natapov
2010-11-21 14:48 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2010-11-21 16:01 ` Gleb Natapov
2010-11-21 16:38 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2010-11-21 17:28 ` Gleb Natapov
2010-11-21 18:22 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2010-11-21 19:29 ` Gleb Natapov
2010-11-21 20:39 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2010-11-22 7:37 ` Gleb Natapov
2010-11-22 8:16 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2010-11-22 13:04 ` Gleb Natapov
2010-11-22 14:50 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2010-11-22 14:52 ` Gleb Natapov
2010-11-22 14:56 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2010-11-22 14:58 ` Gleb Natapov [this message]
2010-11-22 16:41 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2010-11-22 17:01 ` Gleb Natapov
2010-12-13 20:04 ` Alex Williamson
2010-12-14 4:46 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2010-12-14 4:49 ` Alex Williamson
2010-12-14 4:57 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2010-12-14 5:04 ` Alex Williamson
2010-12-14 12:26 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2010-12-14 18:34 ` Alex Williamson
2010-12-15 9:56 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2010-12-15 15:27 ` Alex Williamson
2010-12-16 7:08 ` Isaku Yamahata
2010-12-16 8:36 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2010-12-21 10:13 ` Isaku Yamahata
2010-12-21 10:56 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
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