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From: Paul Brook <paul@codesourcery.com>
To: qemu-devel@nongnu.org
Cc: ohmura.kei@lab.ntt.co.jp, mtosatti@redhat.com,
	stefanha@linux.vnet.ibm.com, kvm@vger.kernel.org,
	Stefan Hajnoczi <stefanha@gmail.com>,
	dlaor@redhat.com, Yoshiaki Tamura <tamura.yoshiaki@lab.ntt.co.jp>,
	vatsa@linux.vnet.ibm.com, Blue Swirl <blauwirbel@gmail.com>,
	aliguori@us.ibm.com, avi@redhat.com, psuriset@linux.vnet.ibm.com,
	ananth@in.ibm.com
Subject: Re: [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 00/21] Kemari for KVM 0.2
Date: Mon, 29 Nov 2010 13:19:20 +0000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <201011291319.20514.paul@codesourcery.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <AANLkTiksE9L-KOVwPBjZeV9qCg-AcbUx9Ko3NmW26Qaf@mail.gmail.com>

> 2010/11/29 Paul Brook <paul@codesourcery.com>:
> >> >> Could you formulate the constraints so developers are aware of them
> >> >> in the future and can protect the codebase.  How about expanding the
> >> >> Kemari wiki pages?
> >> > 
> >> > If you like the idea above, I'm happy to make the list also on
> >> > the wiki page.
> >> 
> >> Here's a different question: what requirements must an emulated device
> >> meet in order to be added to the Kemari supported whitelist?  That's
> >> what I want to know so that I don't break existing devices and can add
> >> new devices that work with Kemari :).
> > 
> > Why isn't it completely device agnostic? i.e. if a device has to care
> > about Kemari at all (of vice-versa) then IMO you're doing it wrong. The
> > whole point of the internal block/net APIs is that they isolate the host
> > implementation details from the device emulation.
> 
> You're right "theoretically".  But what I've learned so far,
> there are cases like virtio-net and e1000 woks but virtio-blk
> doesn't.  "Theoretically", any emulated device should be able to
> get into the whitelist if the event-tap is properly implemented
> but sometimes it doesn't seem to be that simple.
> 
> To answer Stefan's question, there shouldn't be any requirement
> for a device, but must be tested with Kemari.  If it doesn't work
> correctly, the problems must be fixed before adding to the list.

What exactly are the problems? Is this a device bus of a Kemari bug?
If it's the former then that implies you're imposing additional requirements 
that weren't previously part of the API.  If the latter, then it's a bug like 
any other.

Paul

  reply	other threads:[~2010-11-29 13:19 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 112+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2010-11-25  6:06 [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 00/21] Kemari for KVM 0.2 Yoshiaki Tamura
2010-11-25  6:06 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 01/21] Make QEMUFile buf expandable, and introduce qemu_realloc_buffer() and qemu_clear_buffer() Yoshiaki Tamura
2010-11-25  6:06 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 02/21] Introduce read() to FdMigrationState Yoshiaki Tamura
2010-11-25  6:06 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 03/21] Introduce skip_header parameter to qemu_loadvm_state() Yoshiaki Tamura
2010-11-25  6:06 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 04/21] qemu-char: export socket_set_nodelay() Yoshiaki Tamura
2010-11-25  6:06 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 05/21] virtio: modify save/load handler to handle inuse varialble Yoshiaki Tamura
2010-11-28  9:28   ` [Qemu-devel] " Michael S. Tsirkin
2010-11-28 11:27     ` Yoshiaki Tamura
2010-11-28 11:46       ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2010-12-01  8:03         ` Yoshiaki Tamura
2010-12-02 12:02           ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2010-12-03  6:28             ` Yoshiaki Tamura
2010-12-16  7:36               ` Yoshiaki Tamura
2010-12-16  9:51                 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2010-12-16 14:28                   ` Yoshiaki Tamura
2010-12-16 14:40                     ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2010-12-16 15:59                       ` Yoshiaki Tamura
2010-12-17 16:22                         ` Yoshiaki Tamura
2010-12-24  9:27                         ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2010-12-24 11:42                           ` Yoshiaki Tamura
2010-12-24 13:21                             ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2010-12-26  9:05                             ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2010-12-26 10:14                               ` Yoshiaki Tamura
2010-12-26 10:46                                 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2010-12-26 10:50                                   ` Yoshiaki Tamura
2010-12-26 10:49                             ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2010-12-26 10:57                               ` Yoshiaki Tamura
2010-12-26 12:01                                 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2010-12-26 12:16                                   ` Yoshiaki Tamura
2010-12-26 12:17                                     ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2010-11-25  6:06 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 06/21] vl: add a tmp pointer so that a handler can delete the entry to which it belongs Yoshiaki Tamura
2010-12-08  7:03   ` Isaku Yamahata
2010-12-08  8:11     ` Yoshiaki Tamura
2010-12-08 14:22       ` Anthony Liguori
2010-11-25  6:06 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 07/21] Introduce fault tolerant VM transaction QEMUFile and ft_mode Yoshiaki Tamura
2010-11-25  6:06 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 08/21] savevm: introduce util functions to control ft_trans_file from savevm layer Yoshiaki Tamura
2010-11-25  6:06 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 09/21] Introduce event-tap Yoshiaki Tamura
2010-11-29 11:00   ` [Qemu-devel] " Stefan Hajnoczi
2010-11-30  9:50     ` Yoshiaki Tamura
2010-11-30 10:04       ` Stefan Hajnoczi
2010-11-30 10:20         ` Yoshiaki Tamura
2011-01-04 11:02     ` Yoshiaki Tamura
2011-01-04 11:14       ` Stefan Hajnoczi
2011-01-04 11:19       ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2011-01-04 12:20         ` Yoshiaki Tamura
2011-01-04 13:10           ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2011-01-04 13:45             ` Yoshiaki Tamura
2011-01-04 14:42               ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2011-01-06  8:47                 ` Yoshiaki Tamura
2011-01-06  9:36                   ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2011-01-06  9:41                     ` Yoshiaki Tamura
     [not found]   ` <20101130011914.GA9015@amt.cnet>
2010-11-30  9:28     ` Yoshiaki Tamura
2010-11-30 10:25       ` Marcelo Tosatti
2010-11-30 10:35         ` Yoshiaki Tamura
2010-11-30 13:11           ` Marcelo Tosatti
2010-11-25  6:06 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 10/21] Call init handler of event-tap at main() in vl.c Yoshiaki Tamura
2010-11-25  6:06 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 11/21] ioport: insert event_tap_ioport() to ioport_write() Yoshiaki Tamura
2010-11-28  9:40   ` [Qemu-devel] " Michael S. Tsirkin
2010-11-28 12:00     ` Yoshiaki Tamura
2010-12-16  7:37       ` Yoshiaki Tamura
2010-12-16  9:22         ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2010-12-16  9:50           ` Yoshiaki Tamura
2010-12-16  9:54             ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2010-12-16 16:27             ` Stefan Hajnoczi
2010-12-17 16:19               ` Yoshiaki Tamura
2010-12-18  8:36                 ` Stefan Hajnoczi
2010-11-25  6:06 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 12/21] Insert event_tap_mmio() to cpu_physical_memory_rw() in exec.c Yoshiaki Tamura
2010-11-25  6:06 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 13/21] dma-helpers: replace bdrv_aio_writev() with bdrv_aio_writev_proxy() Yoshiaki Tamura
2010-11-28  9:33   ` [Qemu-devel] " Michael S. Tsirkin
2010-11-28 11:55     ` Yoshiaki Tamura
2010-11-28 12:28       ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2010-11-29  9:52       ` Kevin Wolf
2010-11-29 12:56         ` Yoshiaki Tamura
2010-11-25  6:06 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 14/21] virtio-blk: replace bdrv_aio_multiwrite() with bdrv_aio_multiwrite_proxy() Yoshiaki Tamura
2010-11-25  6:06 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 15/21] virtio-net: replace qemu_sendv_packet_async() with qemu_sendv_packet_async_proxy() Yoshiaki Tamura
2010-11-28  9:31   ` [Qemu-devel] " Michael S. Tsirkin
2010-11-28 11:43     ` Yoshiaki Tamura
2010-11-25  6:06 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 16/21] e1000: replace qemu_send_packet() with qemu_send_packet_proxy() Yoshiaki Tamura
2010-11-25  6:06 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 17/21] savevm: introduce qemu_savevm_trans_{begin, commit} Yoshiaki Tamura
2010-11-25  6:06 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 18/21] migration: introduce migrate_ft_trans_{put, get}_ready(), and modify migrate_fd_put_ready() when ft_mode is on Yoshiaki Tamura
2010-11-25  6:06 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 19/21] migration-tcp: modify tcp_accept_incoming_migration() to handle ft_mode, and add a hack not to close fd when ft_mode is enabled Yoshiaki Tamura
2010-11-25  6:06 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 20/21] Introduce -k option to enable FT migration mode (Kemari) Yoshiaki Tamura
2010-11-25  6:07 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 21/21] migration: add a parser to accept FT migration incoming mode Yoshiaki Tamura
2010-11-26 18:39 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 00/21] Kemari for KVM 0.2 Blue Swirl
2010-11-27  4:29   ` Yoshiaki Tamura
2010-11-27  7:23     ` Stefan Hajnoczi
2010-11-27  8:53       ` Yoshiaki Tamura
2010-11-27 11:03         ` Blue Swirl
2010-11-27 12:21           ` Yoshiaki Tamura
2010-11-27 11:54         ` Stefan Hajnoczi
2010-11-27 13:11           ` Yoshiaki Tamura
2010-11-29 10:17             ` Stefan Hajnoczi
2010-11-29 13:00               ` Paul Brook
2010-11-29 13:13                 ` Yoshiaki Tamura
2010-11-29 13:19                   ` Paul Brook [this message]
2010-11-29 13:41                     ` Yoshiaki Tamura
2010-11-29 14:12                       ` Paul Brook
2010-11-29 14:37                         ` Yoshiaki Tamura
2010-11-29 14:56                           ` Paul Brook
2010-11-29 15:00                             ` Yoshiaki Tamura
2010-11-29 15:56                               ` Paul Brook
2010-11-29 16:23                               ` Stefan Hajnoczi
2010-11-29 16:41                                 ` Dor Laor
2010-11-29 16:53                                   ` Paul Brook
2010-11-29 17:05                                     ` Anthony Liguori
2010-11-29 17:18                                       ` Paul Brook
2010-11-29 17:33                                         ` Anthony Liguori
2010-11-30  7:13                                       ` Yoshiaki Tamura
2010-11-30  6:43                                   ` Yoshiaki Tamura
2010-11-30  9:13                                   ` Takuya Yoshikawa
2010-11-27 11:20       ` Paul Brook
2010-11-27 12:35         ` Yoshiaki Tamura

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