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From: Srivatsa Vaddagiri <vatsa@linux.vnet.ibm.com>
To: Avi Kivity <avi@redhat.com>
Cc: Peter Zijlstra <a.p.zijlstra@chello.nl>,
	kvm@vger.kernel.org, Mike Galbraith <efault@gmx.de>,
	qemu-devel@nongnu.org, Chris Wright <chrisw@sous-sol.org>,
	Anthony Liguori <aliguori@linux.vnet.ibm.com>
Subject: [Qemu-devel] Re: [PATCH] qemu-kvm: response to SIGUSR1 to start/stop a VCPU (v2)
Date: Thu, 2 Dec 2010 18:43:12 +0530	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20101202131312.GC18445@linux.vnet.ibm.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <4CF793FF.4010504@redhat.com>

On Thu, Dec 02, 2010 at 02:41:35PM +0200, Avi Kivity wrote:
> >>  What I'd like to see in directed yield is donating exactly the
> >>  amount of vruntime that's needed to make the target thread run.
> >
> >I presume this requires the target vcpu to move left in rb-tree to run
> >earlier than scheduled currently and that it doesn't involve any
> >change to the sched_period() of target vcpu?
> >
> >Just was wondering how this would work in case of buggy guests. Lets say that a
> >guest ran into a AB<->BA deadlock. VCPU0 spins on lock B (held by VCPU1
> >currently), while VCPU spins on lock A (held by VCPU0 currently). Both keep
> >boosting each other's vruntime, potentially affecting fairtime for other guests
> >(to the point of starving them perhaps)?
> 
> We preserve vruntime overall.  If you give vruntime to someone, it
> comes at your own expense.  Overall vruntime is preserved.

Hmm ..so I presume that this means we don't affect target thread's position in
rb-tree upon donation, rather we influence its sched_period() to include 
donated time? IOW donation has no effect on causing the target thread to run
"immediately", rather it will have the effect of causing it run "longer"
whenever it runs next?

Even that would require some precaution in directed yield to ensure that it
doesn't unduly inflate vruntime of target, hurting fairness for other guests on
same cpu as target (example guest code that can lead to this situation 
below):

vcpu0:				vcpu1:

				spinlock(A);

spinlock(A);            

                        	while(1)
				;
 
			 	spin_unlock(A);

- vatsa

  reply	other threads:[~2010-12-02 13:18 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 40+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2010-11-23 16:49 [Qemu-devel] [PATCH] qemu-kvm: response to SIGUSR1 to start/stop a VCPU (v2) Anthony Liguori
2010-11-23 19:35 ` Blue Swirl
2010-11-23 21:46   ` Anthony Liguori
2010-11-23 23:43     ` Paolo Bonzini
2010-11-24  1:15       ` Anthony Liguori
2010-11-24  2:08         ` Paolo Bonzini
2010-11-24  8:18 ` [Qemu-devel] " Avi Kivity
2010-11-24 13:58   ` Anthony Liguori
2010-11-24 14:23     ` Avi Kivity
2010-12-01 12:37       ` Srivatsa Vaddagiri
2010-12-01 12:56         ` Avi Kivity
2010-12-01 16:12           ` Srivatsa Vaddagiri
2010-12-01 16:25             ` Peter Zijlstra
2010-12-01 17:17               ` Chris Wright
2010-12-01 17:22                 ` Peter Zijlstra
2010-12-01 17:26                   ` Rik van Riel
2010-12-01 19:07                     ` Peter Zijlstra
2010-12-01 19:24                       ` Rik van Riel
2010-12-01 19:35                         ` Peter Zijlstra
2010-12-01 19:42                           ` Rik van Riel
2010-12-01 19:47                             ` Peter Zijlstra
2010-12-02  9:07                       ` Avi Kivity
2010-12-01 17:46                   ` Chris Wright
2010-12-01 17:29               ` Srivatsa Vaddagiri
2010-12-01 17:45                 ` Peter Zijlstra
2010-12-01 18:00                   ` Srivatsa Vaddagiri
2010-12-01 19:09                     ` Peter Zijlstra
2010-12-02  9:17                       ` Avi Kivity
2010-12-02 11:47                         ` Srivatsa Vaddagiri
2010-12-02 12:22                           ` Srivatsa Vaddagiri
2010-12-02 12:41                           ` Avi Kivity
2010-12-02 13:13                             ` Srivatsa Vaddagiri [this message]
2010-12-02 13:49                               ` Avi Kivity
2010-12-02 15:27                                 ` Srivatsa Vaddagiri
2010-12-02 15:28                                   ` Srivatsa Vaddagiri
2010-12-02 15:33                                   ` Avi Kivity
2010-12-02 15:44                                     ` Srivatsa Vaddagiri
2010-12-02 12:19                         ` Srivatsa Vaddagiri
2010-12-02 12:42                           ` Avi Kivity
2010-12-02  9:14                 ` Avi Kivity

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