From: Amit Shah <amit.shah@redhat.com>
To: Paul Brook <paul@codesourcery.com>
Cc: Gerd Hoffmann <kraxel@redhat.com>,
qemu-devel@nongnu.org, Juan Quintela <quintela@redhat.com>
Subject: Re: [Qemu-devel] [PATCH v8 7/7] virtio-console: Enable port throttling when chardev is slow to consume data
Date: Mon, 6 Dec 2010 12:25:06 +0530 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20101206065506.GD11457@amit-x200.redhat.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <201012021731.36291.paul@codesourcery.com>
On (Thu) Dec 02 2010 [17:31:36], Paul Brook wrote:
> > > > when there's a partial write, it tries to do a write again, which will
> > > > fail with -EAGAIN.
> > >
> > > Doesn't that cause the first partial chunk to be incorrectly transmitted
> > > twice? You may only return EAGAIN if no data was transmitted.
> >
> > Except for the fact that no caller of qemu_chr_write() resubmits (or
> > even checks) partial writes.
>
> I don't buy this argument. The current implementation of qemu_chr_write never
> generates transient failures, so they don't need to.
And applying this patch won't change the situation.
What I proposed in the earlier mail was to buffer only the data that has
to be re-submitted in case the caller is capable of stopping further
output till the char layer indicates it's free to start again.
> Once data has been transmitted, we have three options:
>
> a) Block until the write completes. This makes the whole patch fairly
> pointless as host and guest block boundaries are unlikely to align.
This is what currently happens and will remain so for callers of
qemu_chr_write() which don't have a .write_unblocked() pointer assigned
in the char dev struct.
> b) Store the data on the side somewhere. Tell the device all data has been
> sent, and arrange for this data to be flushed before accepting any more data.
> This is bad because it allows the guest to allocate arbitrarily large[1]
> buffers on the host. i.e. a fairly easily exploitable DoS attack.
With virtio-serial, this is what's in use. The buffer is limited to the
length of the vq (which is a compile-time constant) and there also is
the virtio_serial_throttle_port() call that tells the guest to not send
any more data to the host till the char layer indicates it's OK to send
more data.
> c) Return a partial write to the guest. The guest already has to handle
> retries due to EAGAIN, and DMA capable devices already have to handle partial
> mappings, so this doesn't seem too onerous a requirement. This is not a new
> concept, it's the same as the unix write(2)/send(2) functions.
This isn't possible with the current vq design.
Amit
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2010-12-06 6:55 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 23+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2010-12-01 9:54 [Qemu-devel] [PATCH v8 0/7] char: non-blocking writes, virtio-console flow control Amit Shah
2010-12-01 9:54 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH v8 1/7] virtio-console: Factor out common init between console and generic ports Amit Shah
2010-12-01 9:54 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH v8 2/7] char: Add a QemuChrHandlers struct to initialise chardev handlers Amit Shah
2010-12-01 9:54 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH v8 3/7] char: Introduce char_set/remove_fd_handlers() Amit Shah
2010-12-01 9:54 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH v8 4/7] char: Add framework for a 'write unblocked' callback Amit Shah
2010-12-01 9:54 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH v8 5/7] char: Update send_all() to handle nonblocking chardev write requests Amit Shah
2010-12-01 9:54 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH v8 6/7] char: Equip the unix/tcp backend to handle nonblocking writes Amit Shah
2010-12-01 9:54 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH v8 7/7] virtio-console: Enable port throttling when chardev is slow to consume data Amit Shah
2010-12-01 11:30 ` Paul Brook
2010-12-01 11:48 ` Amit Shah
2010-12-01 11:59 ` Paul Brook
2010-12-01 12:12 ` Amit Shah
2010-12-01 13:08 ` Paul Brook
2010-12-02 9:21 ` Amit Shah
2010-12-02 17:31 ` Paul Brook
2010-12-06 6:55 ` Amit Shah [this message]
2010-12-06 9:35 ` Paul Brook
2010-12-06 10:11 ` Amit Shah
2010-12-06 13:23 ` Paul Brook
2010-12-07 7:11 ` Amit Shah
2010-12-08 12:56 ` Paul Brook
2010-12-08 14:25 ` Amit Shah
2010-12-08 16:54 ` Paul Brook
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