From: Marcelo Tosatti <mtosatti@redhat.com>
To: Anthony Liguori <anthony@codemonkey.ws>
Cc: Jan Kiszka <jan.kiszka@web.de>, Avi Kivity <avi@redhat.com>,
kvm <kvm@vger.kernel.org>, qemu-devel <qemu-devel@nongnu.org>
Subject: [Qemu-devel] Re: Role of qemu_fair_mutex
Date: Tue, 4 Jan 2011 19:39:20 -0200 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20110104213920.GA7379@amt.cnet> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <4D232BF6.6050102@codemonkey.ws>
On Tue, Jan 04, 2011 at 08:17:26AM -0600, Anthony Liguori wrote:
> On 01/03/2011 04:01 AM, Avi Kivity wrote:
> >On 01/03/2011 11:46 AM, Jan Kiszka wrote:
> >>Hi,
> >>
> >>at least in kvm mode, the qemu_fair_mutex seems to have lost its
> >>function of balancing qemu_global_mutex access between the io-thread and
> >>vcpus. It's now only taken by the latter, isn't it?
> >>
> >>This and the fact that qemu-kvm does not use this kind of lock made me
> >>wonder what its role is and if it is still relevant in practice. I'd
> >>like to unify the execution models of qemu-kvm and qemu, and this lock
> >>is the most obvious difference (there are surely more subtle ones as
> >>well...).
> >>
> >
> >IIRC it was used for tcg, which has a problem that kvm doesn't
> >have: a tcg vcpu needs to hold qemu_mutex when it runs, which
> >means there will always be contention on qemu_mutex. In the
> >absence of fairness, the tcg thread could dominate qemu_mutex and
> >starve the iothread.
>
> No, it's actually the opposite IIRC.
>
> TCG relies on the following behavior. A guest VCPU runs until 1)
> it encounters a HLT instruction 2) an event occurs that forces the
> TCG execution to break.
>
> (2) really means that the TCG thread receives a signal. Usually,
> this is the periodic timer signal.
>
> When the TCG thread, it needs to let the IO thread run for at least
> one iteration. Coordinating the execution of the IO thread such
> that it's guaranteed to run at least once and then having it drop
> the qemu mutex long enough for the TCG thread to acquire it is the
> purpose of the qemu_fair_mutex.
Its the vcpu threads that starve the IO thread.
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2011-01-04 22:29 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 13+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2011-01-03 9:46 [Qemu-devel] Role of qemu_fair_mutex Jan Kiszka
2011-01-03 10:01 ` [Qemu-devel] " Avi Kivity
2011-01-03 10:03 ` Jan Kiszka
2011-01-03 10:08 ` Avi Kivity
2011-01-04 14:17 ` Anthony Liguori
2011-01-04 14:27 ` Avi Kivity
2011-01-04 14:55 ` Anthony Liguori
2011-01-04 15:12 ` Avi Kivity
2011-01-04 15:43 ` Anthony Liguori
2011-01-05 8:55 ` Avi Kivity
2011-01-04 21:39 ` Marcelo Tosatti [this message]
2011-01-05 16:44 ` Anthony Liguori
2011-01-05 17:08 ` Avi Kivity
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