From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Received: from [140.186.70.92] (port=57955 helo=eggs.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1PmiPX-0004yB-Oz for qemu-devel@nongnu.org; Tue, 08 Feb 2011 02:54:56 -0500 Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1PmiPW-0005Kx-Vq for qemu-devel@nongnu.org; Tue, 08 Feb 2011 02:54:55 -0500 Received: from mx1.redhat.com ([209.132.183.28]:54389) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1PmiPW-0005Kt-LH for qemu-devel@nongnu.org; Tue, 08 Feb 2011 02:54:54 -0500 Date: Tue, 8 Feb 2011 13:24:49 +0530 From: Amit Shah Subject: Re: [Qemu-devel] Re: new->old version migration Message-ID: <20110208075449.GC29281@amit-x200.redhat.com> References: <20110207160751.GC25106@redhat.com> <4D504925.3000807@codemonkey.ws> <20110207195315.GA28096@redhat.com> <4D505C92.5040904@codemonkey.ws> <20110207215203.GA28658@redhat.com> <4D50A90C.1060701@codemonkey.ws> <20110208064214.GB28096@redhat.com> <20110208070714.GA29281@amit-x200.redhat.com> <4D50F460.5070402@codemonkey.ws> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <4D50F460.5070402@codemonkey.ws> List-Id: qemu-devel.nongnu.org List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , To: Anthony Liguori Cc: Alex Williamson , Juan Quintela , qemu list , "Michael S. Tsirkin" On (Tue) 08 Feb 2011 [01:44:32], Anthony Liguori wrote: > On 02/08/2011 01:07 AM, Amit Shah wrote: > >On (Tue) 08 Feb 2011 [08:42:14], Michael S. Tsirkin wrote: > >>I see. I'm unhappy with the facts that > >>1. if (feature) is spread all over the code instead > >> of just in migration > >>2. it is also obfuscated with if (flow_control) > >> instead of plain if (migrate to qemu< 0.14) > >> so removing it will be much harder > >>3. this forces anyone who wants > >> a VM compatible with qemu 0.13 to also lose data, > >> even if migration to 0.13 is never attempted. > >If a machine is started with -M pc-0.13 then we can safely assume the > >user will want to migrate to another 0.13 machine. > > No, a user wants a guest that works. If there was a bug in 0.13 and > it's fixed in 0.14, then reintroducing the bug in -M pc-0.13 is not > expected. For this particular patch and use-case, the bug exists in 0.13 as well as 0.14. It's just the migration state that has changed, no other guest- or host- visible changes. Amit