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From: Marcelo Tosatti <mtosatti@redhat.com>
To: Jan Kiszka <jan.kiszka@web.de>, xming <xmingske@gmail.com>,
	Gerd Hoffmann <kraxel@redhat.com>,
	kvm@vger.kernel.org, qemu-devel <qemu-devel@nongnu.org>,
	Paolo Bonzini <pbonzini@redhat.com>, Avi Kivity <avi@redhat.com>
Subject: [Qemu-devel] Re: kvm crashes with spice while loading qxl
Date: Mon, 7 Mar 2011 13:02:26 -0300	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20110307160225.GA10021@amt.cnet> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20110306103059.GL3222@playa.tlv.redhat.com>

On Sun, Mar 06, 2011 at 12:30:59PM +0200, Alon Levy wrote:
> On Sat, Mar 05, 2011 at 01:35:58PM -0300, Marcelo Tosatti wrote:
> > On Sat, Feb 26, 2011 at 01:29:01PM +0100, Jan Kiszka wrote:
> > > >     at /var/tmp/portage/app-emulation/qemu-kvm-0.14.0/work/qemu-kvm-0.14.0/qemu-kvm.c:1466
> > > > #12 0x00007ffff77bb944 in start_thread () from /lib/libpthread.so.0
> > > > #13 0x00007ffff5e491dd in clone () from /lib/libc.so.6
> > > > (gdb)
> > > 
> > > That's a spice bug. In fact, there are a lot of
> > > qemu_mutex_lock/unlock_iothread in that subsystem. I bet at least a few
> > > of them can cause even more subtle problems.
> > > 
> > > Two general issues with dropping the global mutex like this:
> > >  - The caller of mutex_unlock is responsible for maintaining
> > >    cpu_single_env across the unlocked phase (that's related to the
> > >    abort above).
> > >  - Dropping the lock in the middle of a callback is risky. That may
> > >    enable re-entrances of code sections that weren't designed for this
> > >    (I'm skeptic about the side effects of
> > >    qemu_spice_vm_change_state_handler - why dropping the lock here?).
> > > 
> > > Spice requires a careful review regarding such issues. Or it should
> > > pioneer with introducing its own lock so that we can handle at least
> > > related I/O activities over the VCPUs without holding the global mutex
> > > (but I bet it's not the simplest candidate for such a new scheme).
> > > 
> > > Jan
> > > 
> > 
> > Agree with the concern regarding spice.
> > 
> 
> What are the pros and cons of (re)introducing a spice specific lock?
>  + simplicity. Only spice touches the spice lock.
>  - ? what were the original reasons for Gerd dropping the spice lock?
> 
> I have no problem reintroducing this lock, I'm just concerned that it's
> wasted effort because after I send that patch someone will jump and remind
> me why it was removed in the first place.

Well, can't comment on why it was done or a proper way to fix it.
Point is that dropping the global lock requires careful review to verify
safety, as Jan mentioned.
For example, a potential problem would be:

  vcpu context                  iothread context
  qxl pio write 
  drop lock 
                                acquire lock
                                1) change state
                                drop lock
  acquire lock

1) could be device hotunplug, system reset, etc.

  reply	other threads:[~2011-03-07 16:17 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 29+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
     [not found] <AANLkTint9-P-1jD5pbXstzPcYueLHQ68Rd0T_Chz6xRN@mail.gmail.com>
2011-02-26 12:29 ` [Qemu-devel] Re: kvm crashes with spice while loading qxl Jan Kiszka
2011-02-26 14:44   ` xming
2011-02-27 19:03   ` Alon Levy
2011-02-27 19:11     ` Jan Kiszka
2011-02-27 19:16       ` Alon Levy
2011-02-27 19:27         ` Jan Kiszka
2011-02-27 19:29           ` Alon Levy
2011-02-27 19:32           ` Alon Levy
2011-03-01 12:58       ` Alon Levy
2011-03-02  8:22         ` Jan Kiszka
2011-03-02 10:56           ` Alon Levy
2011-03-02 11:34             ` Jan Kiszka
2011-03-02 12:32               ` Alon Levy
2011-02-28 12:56     ` xming
2011-03-01  3:56     ` Rick Vernam
2011-03-05 16:35   ` Marcelo Tosatti
2011-03-05 17:11     ` Paolo Bonzini
2011-03-06 10:30     ` Alon Levy
2011-03-07 16:02       ` Marcelo Tosatti [this message]
2011-03-06 10:38     ` Avi Kivity
2011-03-07 16:13       ` Marcelo Tosatti
2011-03-07 22:27         ` Paolo Bonzini
2011-03-08  9:17         ` Avi Kivity
2011-03-08  9:28           ` Paolo Bonzini
2011-03-08  9:32             ` Avi Kivity
2011-04-26  8:53   ` [Qemu-devel] " Gerd Hoffmann
2011-04-26  9:06     ` Jan Kiszka
2011-04-26  9:43       ` Gerd Hoffmann
2011-04-26  9:34     ` Alon Levy

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