From: "Michael S. Tsirkin" <mst@redhat.com>
To: Anthony Liguori <anthony@codemonkey.ws>
Cc: Peter Maydell <peter.maydell@linaro.org>,
Alex Williamson <alex.williamson@redhat.com>,
qemu-devel@nongnu.org
Subject: Re: [Qemu-devel] [PATCH RFC] vga: flag vga ram for notifiers
Date: Thu, 31 Mar 2011 23:37:43 +0200 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20110331213743.GA27264@redhat.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <4D94F2FC.4000509@codemonkey.ws>
On Thu, Mar 31, 2011 at 04:32:44PM -0500, Anthony Liguori wrote:
> On 03/31/2011 04:26 PM, Michael S. Tsirkin wrote:
> >On Thu, Mar 31, 2011 at 02:29:50PM -0500, Anthony Liguori wrote:
> >>On 03/31/2011 02:18 PM, Peter Maydell wrote:
> >>>On 31 March 2011 20:01, Anthony Liguori<anthony@codemonkey.ws> wrote:
> >>>>VGA is just another device. It happens to be that we treat VGA device
> >>>>memory as something that behaves like ram occassionally but that does not
> >>>>make it RAM.
> >>>So, to ask a dumb question, what does make something RAM?
> >>It's a made up concept that we use to make device performance faster.
> >>
> >>Basically, RAM should include all of the memory that a reasonable
> >>device (that we control) would DMA to and has a relatively stable
> >>mapping.
> >>
> >>>My take on RAM is that RAM is just another device; the only
> >>>difference is that you want to be able to implement fast
> >>>paths that go straight(ish) to target memory; but that's
> >>>an optimisation detail, not something that makes RAM
> >>>conceptually different from other devices...
> >>Right, the trouble is, if you want to treat RAM like any other
> >>device, you can't get stable mappings to it which is bad for
> >>something like vhost-net.
> >>
> >>Regards,
> >>
> >>Anthony Liguori
> >Not only that I guess. Removing the VGA memory with the baloon
> >will likely also be a bad idea.
>
> It's just the equivalent of a memset(0). It would be a silly thing
> for a guest to do but not somethign to be concerned about.
>
> Regards,
>
> Anthony Liguori
>
BTW, what is IO_MEM_NOTDIRTY?
I thought another way would be to replace IO_MEM_RAM with
IO_MEM_DEVICE_SHADOW_RAM in these cases but no idea
what the right value for that enum would be.
--
MST
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2011-03-31 21:38 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 25+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2011-03-31 17:43 [Qemu-devel] [PATCH RFC] vga: flag vga ram for notifiers Michael S. Tsirkin
2011-03-31 18:33 ` Anthony Liguori
2011-03-31 18:49 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2011-03-31 19:01 ` Anthony Liguori
2011-03-31 19:07 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2011-03-31 19:26 ` Anthony Liguori
2011-03-31 20:03 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2011-03-31 20:21 ` Anthony Liguori
2011-03-31 19:17 ` Alex Williamson
2011-03-31 19:18 ` Peter Maydell
2011-03-31 19:29 ` Anthony Liguori
2011-03-31 20:12 ` Peter Maydell
2011-03-31 20:23 ` Anthony Liguori
2011-03-31 21:32 ` Peter Maydell
2011-03-31 21:38 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2011-03-31 21:49 ` Anthony Liguori
2011-03-31 23:42 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2011-04-01 0:44 ` Anthony Liguori
2011-04-01 1:07 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2011-04-01 7:12 ` Peter Maydell
2011-04-01 11:21 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2011-03-31 21:26 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2011-03-31 21:32 ` Anthony Liguori
2011-03-31 21:37 ` Michael S. Tsirkin [this message]
2011-03-31 21:48 ` Anthony Liguori
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