From: Gleb Natapov <gleb@redhat.com>
To: Anthony Liguori <anthony@codemonkey.ws>
Cc: Jan Kiszka <jan.kiszka@siemens.com>, Avi Kivity <avi@redhat.com>,
qemu-devel <qemu-devel@nongnu.org>
Subject: Re: [Qemu-devel] [RFC] Memory API
Date: Thu, 19 May 2011 21:28:09 +0300 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20110519182809.GI27310@redhat.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <4DD55B55.5020701@codemonkey.ws>
On Thu, May 19, 2011 at 01:03:01PM -0500, Anthony Liguori wrote:
> On 05/19/2011 12:39 PM, Gleb Natapov wrote:
> >On Thu, May 19, 2011 at 03:37:58PM +0200, Jan Kiszka wrote:
> >>On 2011-05-19 15:36, Anthony Liguori wrote:
> >>>On 05/18/2011 02:40 PM, Jan Kiszka wrote:
> >>>>On 2011-05-18 15:12, Avi Kivity wrote:
> >>>>>void cpu_register_memory_region(MemoryRegion *mr, target_phys_addr_t
> >>>>>addr);
> >>>>
> >>>>OK, let's allow overlapping, but make it explicit:
> >>>>
> >>>>void cpu_register_memory_region_overlap(MemoryRegion *mr,
> >>>> target_phys_addr_t addr,
> >>>> int priority);
> >>>
> >>>The device doesn't actually know how overlapping is handled. This is
> >>>based on the bus hierarchy.
> >>
> >>Devices don't register their regions, buses do.
> >>
> >Today PCI device may register region that overlaps with any other
> >registered memory region without even knowing it. Guest can write any
> >RAM address into PCI BAR and this RAM address will be come mmio are.
>
> Right, but this is not how a real machine works.
>
Very likely.
> With the exception of the few regions that the chipset treats
> specially, RAM accesses don't get a chance to be intercepted by the
> PCI bus.
>
> >More
> >interesting is what happens when guest reprogram PCI BAR to other address
> >- the RAM that was at the previous address just disappears. Obviously
> > this is crazy behaviour, but the question is how do we want to handle
>
> The CPU should continue to access RAM at this address.
I think it should continue using it even when PCI BAR is still mapped to the
RAM address.
> It's unclear
> to me what the right behavior is for device-to-device I/O but I'm
> pretty certain it doesn't matter.
>
For PC may be. But IIRC this thread already had request to support
different memory view from different devices.
> >it? One option is to disallow such overlapping registration, another is
> >to restore RAM mapping after PCI BAR is reprogrammed. If we chose second
> >one the PCI will not know that _overlap() should be called.
> >
> >Another example may be APIC region and PCI. They overlap, but neither
> >CPU nor PCI knows about it.
>
> And APIC always wins when accesses are coming from the CPU.
>
Of course, my question is how proposed API handles this.
--
Gleb.
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2011-05-19 18:28 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 187+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2011-05-18 13:12 [Qemu-devel] [RFC] Memory API Avi Kivity
2011-05-18 14:05 ` Jan Kiszka
2011-05-18 14:36 ` Avi Kivity
2011-05-18 15:11 ` Jan Kiszka
2011-05-18 15:17 ` Peter Maydell
2011-05-18 15:30 ` Jan Kiszka
2011-05-18 19:10 ` Anthony Liguori
2011-05-18 19:27 ` Jan Kiszka
2011-05-18 19:34 ` Anthony Liguori
2011-05-18 20:02 ` Alex Williamson
2011-05-18 20:11 ` Jan Kiszka
2011-05-18 20:13 ` Alex Williamson
2011-05-18 20:07 ` Jan Kiszka
2011-05-18 20:41 ` Anthony Liguori
2011-05-19 8:26 ` Gleb Natapov
2011-05-19 8:30 ` Jan Kiszka
2011-05-19 8:44 ` Avi Kivity
2011-05-19 13:59 ` Anthony Liguori
2011-05-19 13:52 ` Anthony Liguori
2011-05-19 13:56 ` Avi Kivity
2011-05-19 13:57 ` Jan Kiszka
2011-05-19 14:04 ` Anthony Liguori
2011-05-19 14:06 ` Jan Kiszka
2011-05-19 14:11 ` Avi Kivity
2011-05-19 18:18 ` Anthony Liguori
2011-05-19 18:50 ` Jan Kiszka
2011-05-19 19:02 ` Anthony Liguori
2011-05-19 19:10 ` Jan Kiszka
2011-05-20 9:15 ` Avi Kivity
2011-05-20 17:30 ` Blue Swirl
2011-05-22 7:23 ` Avi Kivity
2011-05-19 6:31 ` Jan Kiszka
2011-05-19 13:23 ` Anthony Liguori
2011-05-19 13:25 ` Jan Kiszka
2011-05-19 13:26 ` Avi Kivity
2011-05-19 13:35 ` Anthony Liguori
2011-05-19 13:36 ` Jan Kiszka
2011-05-19 13:43 ` Avi Kivity
2011-05-19 13:39 ` Avi Kivity
2011-05-19 8:09 ` Avi Kivity
2011-05-18 15:23 ` Avi Kivity
2011-05-18 15:36 ` Jan Kiszka
2011-05-18 15:42 ` Avi Kivity
2011-05-18 16:00 ` Jan Kiszka
2011-05-18 16:14 ` Avi Kivity
2011-05-18 16:39 ` Jan Kiszka
2011-05-18 16:47 ` Avi Kivity
2011-05-18 17:07 ` Jan Kiszka
2011-05-18 17:15 ` Avi Kivity
2011-05-18 17:40 ` Jan Kiszka
2011-05-18 20:13 ` Richard Henderson
2011-05-19 8:04 ` Avi Kivity
2011-05-19 9:08 ` Gleb Natapov
2011-05-19 9:10 ` Avi Kivity
2011-05-19 9:14 ` Gleb Natapov
2011-05-19 11:44 ` Avi Kivity
2011-05-19 11:54 ` Gleb Natapov
2011-05-19 11:57 ` Jan Kiszka
2011-05-19 11:58 ` Gleb Natapov
2011-05-19 12:02 ` Avi Kivity
2011-05-19 12:21 ` Gleb Natapov
2011-05-19 12:02 ` Jan Kiszka
2011-05-19 11:57 ` Avi Kivity
2011-05-19 12:20 ` Jan Kiszka
2011-05-19 12:50 ` Avi Kivity
2011-05-19 12:58 ` Jan Kiszka
2011-05-19 13:00 ` Avi Kivity
2011-05-19 13:03 ` Jan Kiszka
2011-05-19 13:07 ` Avi Kivity
2011-05-19 13:26 ` Jan Kiszka
2011-05-19 13:30 ` Avi Kivity
2011-05-19 13:43 ` Jan Kiszka
2011-05-19 13:47 ` Avi Kivity
2011-05-19 13:49 ` Anthony Liguori
2011-05-19 13:53 ` Avi Kivity
2011-05-19 14:15 ` Anthony Liguori
2011-05-19 14:20 ` Jan Kiszka
2011-05-19 14:25 ` Anthony Liguori
2011-05-19 14:28 ` Jan Kiszka
2011-05-19 14:31 ` Avi Kivity
2011-05-19 14:37 ` Anthony Liguori
2011-05-19 14:40 ` Avi Kivity
2011-05-19 16:17 ` Gleb Natapov
2011-05-19 16:25 ` Jan Kiszka
2011-05-19 16:28 ` Gleb Natapov
2011-05-19 16:30 ` Jan Kiszka
2011-05-19 16:36 ` Anthony Liguori
2011-05-19 16:49 ` Jan Kiszka
2011-05-19 17:12 ` Gleb Natapov
2011-05-19 18:11 ` Jan Kiszka
2011-05-20 8:58 ` Avi Kivity
2011-05-20 8:56 ` Avi Kivity
2011-05-20 14:51 ` Anthony Liguori
2011-05-20 16:43 ` Olivier Galibert
2011-05-20 17:32 ` Anthony Liguori
2011-05-22 7:36 ` Avi Kivity
2011-05-19 16:43 ` Gleb Natapov
2011-05-19 16:51 ` Jan Kiszka
2011-05-19 16:27 ` Gleb Natapov
2011-05-20 8:59 ` Avi Kivity
2011-05-20 11:57 ` Gleb Natapov
2011-05-22 7:37 ` Avi Kivity
2011-05-22 8:06 ` Gleb Natapov
2011-05-22 8:09 ` Avi Kivity
2011-05-22 8:59 ` Gleb Natapov
2011-05-22 12:26 ` Avi Kivity
2011-05-19 16:32 ` Anthony Liguori
2011-05-19 16:35 ` Jan Kiszka
2011-05-19 16:38 ` Anthony Liguori
2011-05-19 16:50 ` Jan Kiszka
2011-05-20 9:03 ` Avi Kivity
2011-05-20 9:01 ` Avi Kivity
2011-05-20 15:33 ` Anthony Liguori
2011-05-20 15:59 ` Jan Kiszka
2011-05-22 7:38 ` Avi Kivity
2011-05-22 15:42 ` Anthony Liguori
2011-05-19 14:21 ` Avi Kivity
2011-05-19 13:44 ` Anthony Liguori
2011-05-19 13:47 ` Jan Kiszka
2011-05-19 13:50 ` Anthony Liguori
2011-05-19 13:55 ` Jan Kiszka
2011-05-19 13:55 ` Avi Kivity
2011-05-19 18:06 ` Anthony Liguori
2011-05-19 18:21 ` Jan Kiszka
2011-05-19 13:49 ` Avi Kivity
2011-05-19 9:24 ` Edgar E. Iglesias
2011-05-19 14:49 ` Peter Maydell
2011-05-18 16:33 ` Anthony Liguori
2011-05-18 16:41 ` Avi Kivity
2011-05-18 17:04 ` Anthony Liguori
2011-05-18 17:13 ` Avi Kivity
2011-05-18 16:42 ` Jan Kiszka
2011-05-18 17:05 ` Avi Kivity
2011-05-18 15:14 ` Anthony Liguori
2011-05-18 15:26 ` Avi Kivity
2011-05-18 16:21 ` Avi Kivity
2011-05-18 16:42 ` Jan Kiszka
2011-05-18 16:49 ` Avi Kivity
2011-05-18 17:11 ` Anthony Liguori
2011-05-18 17:38 ` Jan Kiszka
2011-05-18 15:08 ` Anthony Liguori
2011-05-18 15:37 ` Avi Kivity
2011-05-18 19:36 ` Jan Kiszka
2011-05-18 15:47 ` Stefan Weil
2011-05-18 16:06 ` Avi Kivity
2011-05-18 16:51 ` Richard Henderson
2011-05-18 16:53 ` Avi Kivity
2011-05-18 17:03 ` Richard Henderson
2011-05-18 15:58 ` Avi Kivity
2011-05-18 16:26 ` Richard Henderson
2011-05-18 16:37 ` Avi Kivity
2011-05-18 17:17 ` Avi Kivity
2011-05-18 19:40 ` Jan Kiszka
2011-05-19 8:06 ` Avi Kivity
2011-05-19 8:08 ` Jan Kiszka
2011-05-19 8:13 ` Avi Kivity
2011-05-19 8:25 ` Jan Kiszka
2011-05-19 8:43 ` Avi Kivity
2011-05-19 9:24 ` Jan Kiszka
2011-05-19 11:58 ` Avi Kivity
2011-05-19 13:36 ` Anthony Liguori
2011-05-19 13:37 ` Jan Kiszka
2011-05-19 13:41 ` Avi Kivity
2011-05-19 17:39 ` Gleb Natapov
2011-05-19 18:03 ` Anthony Liguori
2011-05-19 18:28 ` Gleb Natapov [this message]
2011-05-19 18:33 ` Anthony Liguori
2011-05-19 18:11 ` Jan Kiszka
2011-05-19 18:22 ` Gleb Natapov
2011-05-19 18:27 ` Jan Kiszka
2011-05-19 18:40 ` Gleb Natapov
2011-05-19 18:45 ` Jan Kiszka
2011-05-19 18:50 ` Gleb Natapov
2011-05-19 18:55 ` Jan Kiszka
2011-05-19 19:02 ` Jan Kiszka
2011-05-20 7:23 ` Gleb Natapov
2011-05-20 7:40 ` Jan Kiszka
2011-05-20 11:25 ` Gleb Natapov
2011-05-22 7:50 ` Avi Kivity
2011-05-22 8:41 ` Gleb Natapov
2011-05-22 10:53 ` Jan Kiszka
2011-05-22 11:29 ` Avi Kivity
2011-05-23 8:45 ` Gleb Natapov
2011-05-23 22:29 ` Jamie Lokier
2011-05-20 9:10 ` Avi Kivity
2011-05-20 12:08 ` Gleb Natapov
2011-05-22 7:56 ` Avi Kivity
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