From: "Daniel P. Berrange" <berrange@redhat.com>
To: Anthony Liguori <anthony@codemonkey.ws>
Cc: Luiz Capitulino <lcapitulino@redhat.com>,
qemu-devel@nongnu.org, "Richard W.M. Jones" <rjones@redhat.com>
Subject: Re: [Qemu-devel] [PATCH] qemu: json: Fix parsing of integers >= 0x8000000000000000
Date: Mon, 23 May 2011 15:24:09 +0100 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20110523142409.GW24143@redhat.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <4DDA663F.30907@codemonkey.ws>
On Mon, May 23, 2011 at 08:50:55AM -0500, Anthony Liguori wrote:
> >>The actual value of the alert will surprise you :-)
> >>
> >>Integers in Javascript are actually represented as doubles
> >>internally which means that integer constants are only accurate up
> >>to 52 bits.
> >>
> >>So really, we should cap integers at 32-bit :-/
> >>
> >>Have I mentioned recently that I really dislike JSON...
> >
> >NB, I am distinguishing between JSON the generic specification and
> >JSON as implemented in web browsers. JSON the specification has *no*
> >limitation on integers.
>
> The spec has no notion of integers at all. Here's the relevant
> text. Note that the BNF only has a single entry point for numbers.
> It does not distinguish between integers and floating point numbers.
> Also, the only discussion of valid numbers is about whether the
> number can be represented as a rational number. I think the only
> way to read the spec here is that *all* numbers are meant to be
> represented as floating point numbers.
I don't agree. It means that JSON as a format can represent arbitrary
numbers, whether rational or not. Interpretation as 32/64/128 bit
floating point, or as 16/32/64 bit integers is entirely a matter for
the parser.
The only issue is whether the implementation parser can hold the
numbers without loosing precision. eg, so if JavaScript gets a
number which doesn't fit in 52-bits, it'll loose some precision
due to floating point storage. Nothing in the JSON spec requires
other languages to throw away precision when parsing or formatting
JSON.
Daniel
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Thread overview: 35+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2011-05-20 18:03 [Qemu-devel] [PATCH] qemu: json: Fix parsing of integers >= 0x8000000000000000 Richard W.M. Jones
2011-05-20 18:11 ` Anthony Liguori
2011-05-20 18:36 ` Richard W.M. Jones
2011-05-20 18:37 ` Richard W.M. Jones
2011-05-20 18:47 ` Richard W.M. Jones
2011-05-20 21:19 ` Richard W.M. Jones
2011-05-23 13:04 ` Daniel P. Berrange
2011-05-23 13:33 ` Anthony Liguori
2011-05-23 13:39 ` Richard W.M. Jones
2011-05-23 13:40 ` Daniel P. Berrange
2011-05-23 13:45 ` Anthony Liguori
2011-05-23 14:14 ` Daniel P. Berrange
2011-05-23 15:03 ` Anthony Liguori
2011-05-23 15:41 ` Daniel P. Berrange
2011-05-23 14:20 ` Markus Armbruster
2011-05-23 13:50 ` Anthony Liguori
2011-05-23 14:02 ` Luiz Capitulino
2011-05-23 14:06 ` Anthony Liguori
2011-05-23 14:24 ` Daniel P. Berrange [this message]
2011-05-23 14:29 ` Markus Armbruster
2011-05-23 14:32 ` Daniel P. Berrange
2011-05-23 15:07 ` Anthony Liguori
2011-05-23 15:19 ` Richard W.M. Jones
2011-05-23 15:24 ` Anthony Liguori
2011-05-23 15:29 ` Richard W.M. Jones
2011-05-23 15:59 ` Anthony Liguori
2011-05-23 16:06 ` Daniel P. Berrange
2011-05-23 15:38 ` Daniel P. Berrange
2011-05-23 16:18 ` Markus Armbruster
2011-05-23 16:37 ` Anthony Liguori
2011-05-24 6:26 ` Markus Armbruster
2011-05-23 23:02 ` [Qemu-devel] Use a hex string (was: [PATCH] qemu: json: Fix parsing of integers >= 0x8000000000000000) Jamie Lokier
2011-05-24 2:50 ` [Qemu-devel] Use a hex string Anthony Liguori
2011-05-24 5:30 ` Jamie Lokier
2011-05-23 13:38 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH] qemu: json: Fix parsing of integers >= 0x8000000000000000 Anthony Liguori
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