From: "Michael S. Tsirkin" <mst@redhat.com>
To: Avi Kivity <avi@redhat.com>
Cc: qemu-devel@nongnu.org, kvm@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [Qemu-devel] [RFC v2 00/20] Memory API
Date: Mon, 27 Jun 2011 18:59:20 +0300 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20110627155920.GB5614@redhat.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <4E08A79D.7010606@redhat.com>
On Mon, Jun 27, 2011 at 06:54:05PM +0300, Avi Kivity wrote:
> On 06/27/2011 06:52 PM, Michael S. Tsirkin wrote:
> >On Mon, Jun 27, 2011 at 06:13:03PM +0300, Avi Kivity wrote:
> >> On 06/27/2011 04:21 PM, Avi Kivity wrote:
> >> >As expected, this is taking longer than expected, so I'm releasing something
> >> >less complete than I'd have liked. Not even all of the PC machine is
> >> >converted, but the difficult parts are (cirrus). It appears to work well.
> >> >
> >> >The major change compared to v1 is the introduction of
> >> >memory_region_init_alias(), which defines a memory region in terms of another.
> >> >With the current API, the ability to alias is provided by address arithmetic
> >> >on ram_addr_t:
> >> >
> >> > ram_addr = qemu_ram_alloc(...);
> >> > cpu_register_physical_memory(..., ram_addr, size, ...);
> >> > /* alias: */
> >> > cpu_register_physical_memory(..., ram_addr + offset, another_size, ...);
> >> >
> >> >With the new API, you have to create an alias:
> >> >
> >> > memory_region_init_ram(&mem, ...);
> >> > memory_region_register_subregion(...,&mem);
> >> > /* alias: */
> >> > memory_region_init_alias(&alias, ...,&mem, offset, another_size);
> >> > memory_region_register_subregion(...,&alias);
> >> >
> >> >The patchset is somewhat churny. One of the reasons is that we move from a
> >> >handle/pointer scheme in ram_addr_t to an object constructor/destructor scheme.
> >> >Another is that region size becomes a property of a region instead of being
> >> >maintained externally. Also, container memory regions must be passed around,
> >> >though we don't do that as well as we should.
> >> >
> >> >Todo:
> >> > - eliminate calls to get_system_memory() (where we ignore the bus hierarchy)
> >> > - add PCI APIs for the VGA window
> >> > - support the PIO address space using the memory API (allowing simplified
> >> > PCI BAR registration)
> >> > - convert 440FX
> >> > - convert everything else
> >>
> >> Michael, I'm looking at the pci bridge code, and it basically does
> >> the same thing - clip each BAR to the intersection of the decode
> >> window of all bridges it hides behind.
> >>
> >> How does a PCI bridge behave wrt VGA? is it a separate control? If
> >> so I probably need to implement generalized clipping (i.e. decode
> >> between 0xa0000-0xc0000 or between 0xc0000000-0xf0000000).
> >
> >Per spec, VGA is special:
> >- bridges have VGA enable bit
> >
> >The VGA Enable bit in the Bridge Control register (see Section 3.2.5.18)
> >is used to control response by the bridge to both the VGA frame buffer
> >addresses and to the VGA register addresses. When a VGA compatible
> >device is located downstream of a PCI-to-PCI bridge, the VGA Enable bit
> >must be set. When set, the bridge will positively decode and forward
> >memory accesses to VGA frame buffer addresses and I/O accesses to VGA
> >registers from the primary to secondary interface and block forwarding
> >of these same accesses from the secondary to primary interface (see
> >Section 4.5.1).
> >VGA memory addresses:
> >0A 0000h through 0B FFFFh
> >VGA I/O addresses (including ISA aliases address - AD[15::10] are not
> >decoded):
> >AD[9::0] = 3B0h through 3BBh and 3C0h through 3DFh
> >The bridge does not decode or forward VGA BIOS memory addresses when the
> >VGA Enable bit is set. ROM code provided by PCI compatible devices may
> >be mapped to any address in PCI memory address space via the Expansion
> >ROM Base Address register in the device's configuration header and must
> >be copied to system memory before execution.
> >
>
> Okay, looks like generalized clipping is needed. It's nice anyway
> and guarantees me a job for life as maintainer of memory.c.
>
>
> >- bridges might also enable subtractive decoding
> > (required for isa behind the bridge)
>
> What does that mean?
subtractive decoding is
a method of address decoding in which a device accepts all
accesses not positively decoded by another agent.
> --
> error compiling committee.c: too many arguments to function
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2011-06-27 15:59 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 42+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2011-06-27 13:21 [Qemu-devel] [RFC v2 00/20] Memory API Avi Kivity
2011-06-27 13:21 ` [Qemu-devel] [RFC v2 01/20] Hierarchical memory region API Avi Kivity
2011-06-28 10:03 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2011-06-28 10:28 ` Jan Kiszka
2011-06-28 11:53 ` Avi Kivity
2011-06-28 12:07 ` Jan Kiszka
2011-06-28 12:09 ` Avi Kivity
2011-06-28 12:46 ` Jan Kiszka
2011-06-28 12:53 ` Avi Kivity
2011-06-28 13:25 ` Peter Maydell
2011-06-28 13:36 ` Avi Kivity
2011-06-28 16:27 ` Olivier Galibert
2011-06-28 11:51 ` Avi Kivity
2011-06-27 13:21 ` [Qemu-devel] [RFC v2 02/20] memory: implement dirty tracking Avi Kivity
2011-06-27 13:21 ` [Qemu-devel] [RFC v2 03/20] memory: merge adjacent segments of a single memory region Avi Kivity
2011-06-27 13:56 ` Jan Kiszka
2011-06-27 14:11 ` Avi Kivity
2011-06-27 13:21 ` [Qemu-devel] [RFC v2 04/20] Internal interfaces for memory API Avi Kivity
2011-06-27 13:21 ` [Qemu-devel] [RFC v2 05/20] exec.c: initialize memory map Avi Kivity
2011-06-27 13:21 ` [Qemu-devel] [RFC v2 06/20] pc: grab system_memory Avi Kivity
2011-06-27 13:21 ` [Qemu-devel] [RFC v2 07/20] pc: convert pc_memory_init() to memory API Avi Kivity
2011-06-27 13:21 ` [Qemu-devel] [RFC v2 08/20] pc: move global memory map out of pc_init1() and into its callers Avi Kivity
2011-06-27 13:21 ` [Qemu-devel] [RFC v2 09/20] pci: pass address space to pci bus when created Avi Kivity
2011-06-27 13:21 ` [Qemu-devel] [RFC v2 10/20] pci: add MemoryRegion based BAR management API Avi Kivity
2011-06-27 13:21 ` [Qemu-devel] [RFC v2 11/20] sysbus: add MemoryRegion based memory " Avi Kivity
2011-06-27 13:21 ` [Qemu-devel] [RFC v2 12/20] usb-ohci: convert to MemoryRegion Avi Kivity
2011-06-27 13:22 ` [Qemu-devel] [RFC v2 13/20] pci: add API to get a BAR's mapped address Avi Kivity
2011-06-27 13:22 ` [Qemu-devel] [RFC v2 14/20] vmsvga: don't remember pci BAR address in callback any more Avi Kivity
2011-06-27 13:22 ` [Qemu-devel] [RFC v2 15/20] vga: convert vga and its derivatives to the memory API Avi Kivity
2011-06-27 13:22 ` [Qemu-devel] [RFC v2 16/20] cirrus: simplify mmio BAR access functions Avi Kivity
2011-06-27 13:22 ` [Qemu-devel] [RFC v2 17/20] cirrus: simplify bitblt " Avi Kivity
2011-06-27 13:22 ` [Qemu-devel] [RFC v2 18/20] cirrus: simplify vga window mmio " Avi Kivity
2011-06-27 13:22 ` [Qemu-devel] [RFC v2 19/20] vga: " Avi Kivity
2011-06-27 13:22 ` [Qemu-devel] [RFC v2 20/20] cirrus: simplify linear framebuffer " Avi Kivity
2011-06-27 15:13 ` [Qemu-devel] [RFC v2 00/20] Memory API Avi Kivity
2011-06-27 15:52 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2011-06-27 15:54 ` Avi Kivity
2011-06-27 15:59 ` Michael S. Tsirkin [this message]
2011-06-27 16:10 ` Avi Kivity
2011-06-27 20:28 ` Anthony Liguori
2011-06-27 15:37 ` Anthony Liguori
2011-06-27 15:44 ` Avi Kivity
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