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From: Christoph Hellwig <hch@lst.de>
To: Kevin Wolf <kwolf@redhat.com>
Cc: Stefan Hajnoczi <stefanha@linux.vnet.ibm.com>,
	Qemu-devel@nongnu.org, Frediano Ziglio <freddy77@gmail.com>,
	Christoph Hellwig <hch@lst.de>, Avi Kivity <avi@redhat.com>
Subject: Re: [Qemu-devel] Default cache mode
Date: Wed, 29 Jun 2011 16:12:06 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20110629141206.GA16311@lst.de> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <4E0B32A9.3010809@redhat.com>

On Wed, Jun 29, 2011 at 04:11:53PM +0200, Kevin Wolf wrote:
> If the guest is acting correctly, then this assumption is definitely
> true with cache=none/writeback. What needs to happen is that the guest
> issues a disk flush before sending your "transaction ok" message. If it
> doesn't do that it can fail even on real hardware. cache=writethrough
> makes things safe that aren't even safe on real hardware, that's why I
> consider it extremely conservative.

Depends on your defintion of real hardware.  Traditionally disks always
had WCE=0 semantics.  When ATA disks added volatile writecaches and people
started seeing problems due to it the advertisement of cache modes and
cache flush commands were added.  For non-ATA disks like SAS or FC
WCE=1 still is the typical delivery setting.

  reply	other threads:[~2011-06-29 14:12 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 32+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2011-06-29 11:59 [Qemu-devel] Default cache mode Kevin Wolf
2011-06-29 12:06 ` Anthony Liguori
2011-06-29 12:16   ` Kevin Wolf
2011-06-29 12:23     ` Anthony Liguori
2011-06-29 12:32       ` Kevin Wolf
2011-06-29 13:51         ` Christoph Hellwig
2011-06-29 14:17         ` Michael Tokarev
2011-06-29 14:50           ` Christoph Hellwig
2011-06-29 15:07             ` Michael Tokarev
2011-06-29 13:50       ` Christoph Hellwig
2011-06-29 14:13         ` Anthony Liguori
2011-06-29 14:47           ` Christoph Hellwig
2011-06-29 16:03           ` Stefan Hajnoczi
2011-06-29 13:53       ` Frediano Ziglio
2011-06-29 14:11         ` Kevin Wolf
2011-06-29 14:12           ` Christoph Hellwig [this message]
2011-06-29 14:21             ` Kevin Wolf
2011-06-29 13:49   ` Christoph Hellwig
2011-06-29 12:08 ` Anthony Liguori
2011-06-29 13:55   ` Christoph Hellwig
2011-06-29 14:20     ` Anthony Liguori
2011-06-29 14:52       ` Christoph Hellwig
2011-06-29 15:26         ` Anthony Liguori
2011-06-29 12:21 ` Alexander Graf
2011-06-29 13:57   ` Stefan Hajnoczi
2011-06-29 14:05     ` Alexander Graf
2011-06-29 12:52 ` Stefan Hajnoczi
2011-06-29 13:56   ` Christoph Hellwig
2011-06-29 13:00 ` Avi Kivity
2011-06-29 13:05   ` Anthony Liguori
2011-06-29 13:30     ` Avi Kivity
2011-06-29 13:11   ` Kevin Wolf

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