From: Marcelo Tosatti <mtosatti@redhat.com>
To: Stefan Hajnoczi <stefanha@gmail.com>
Cc: Kevin Wolf <kwolf@redhat.com>, Chris Wright <chrisw@redhat.com>,
KVM devel mailing list <kvm@vger.kernel.org>,
quintela@redhat.com, jes sorensen <jes.sorensen@redhat.com>,
dlaor@redhat.com, qemu-devel@nongnu.org,
Avi Kivity <avi@redhat.com>
Subject: Re: [Qemu-devel] KVM call agenda for June 28
Date: Tue, 5 Jul 2011 09:58:58 -0300 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20110705125858.GA21254@amt.cnet> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CAJSP0QXLJBZn_3RfCWJCBE8-6LMd2jn4gJ3DqM8VHG3gg+85iQ@mail.gmail.com>
On Tue, Jul 05, 2011 at 01:40:08PM +0100, Stefan Hajnoczi wrote:
> On Tue, Jul 5, 2011 at 9:01 AM, Dor Laor <dlaor@redhat.com> wrote:
> > I tried to re-arrange all of the requirements and use cases using this wiki
> > page: http://wiki.qemu.org/Features/LiveBlockMigration
> >
> > It would be the best to agree upon the most interesting use cases (while we
> > make sure we cover future ones) and agree to them.
> > The next step is to set the interface for all the various verbs since the
> > implementation seems to be converging.
>
> Live block copy was supposed to support snapshot merge. I think the
> current favored approach is to make the source image a backing file to
> the destination image and essentially do image streaming.
>
> Using this mechanism for snapshot merge is tricky. The COW file
> already uses the read-only snapshot base image. So now we cannot
> trivally copy the COW file contents back into the snapshot base image
> using live block copy.
It never did. Live copy creates a new image were both snapshot and
"current" are copied to.
This is similar with image streaming.
> It seems like snapshot merge will require dedicated code that reads
> the allocated clusters from the COW file and writes them back into the
> base image.
>
> A very inefficient alternative would be to create a third image, the
> "merge" image file, which has the COW file as its backing file:
> snapshot (base) -> cow -> merge
>
> All data from snapshot and cow is copied into merge and then snapshot
> and cow can be deleted. But this approach is results in full data
> copying and uses potentially 3x space if cow is close to the size of
> snapshot.
Management can set a higher limit on the size of data that is merged,
and create a new base once exceeded. This avoids copying excessive
amounts of data.
> Any other ideas that reuse live block copy for snapshot merge?
>
> Stefan
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2011-07-05 12:59 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 29+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2011-06-27 14:32 [Qemu-devel] KVM call agenda for June 28 Juan Quintela
2011-06-28 13:38 ` Stefan Hajnoczi
2011-06-28 19:41 ` Marcelo Tosatti
2011-06-29 5:32 ` Stefan Hajnoczi
2011-06-29 7:57 ` Kevin Wolf
2011-06-29 10:08 ` Stefan Hajnoczi
2011-06-29 15:41 ` Marcelo Tosatti
2011-06-30 11:48 ` Stefan Hajnoczi
2011-06-30 12:39 ` Kevin Wolf
2011-06-30 12:54 ` Stefan Hajnoczi
2011-06-30 14:36 ` Marcelo Tosatti
2011-06-30 14:52 ` Kevin Wolf
2011-06-30 18:38 ` Marcelo Tosatti
2011-07-05 8:01 ` Dor Laor
2011-07-05 12:40 ` Stefan Hajnoczi
2011-07-05 12:58 ` Marcelo Tosatti [this message]
2011-07-05 13:39 ` Dor Laor
2011-07-05 14:29 ` Marcelo Tosatti
2011-07-05 14:32 ` Marcelo Tosatti
2011-07-05 14:46 ` Kevin Wolf
2011-07-05 15:04 ` Dor Laor
2011-07-05 15:29 ` Marcelo Tosatti
2011-07-05 15:37 ` Stefan Hajnoczi
2011-07-05 18:18 ` Marcelo Tosatti
2011-07-06 7:48 ` Kevin Wolf
2011-07-07 15:25 ` Stefan Hajnoczi
2011-06-28 13:43 ` Anthony Liguori
2011-06-28 13:48 ` Avi Kivity
2011-06-30 14:10 ` Anthony Liguori
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