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From: "Daniel P. Berrange" <berrange@redhat.com>
To: Jes Sorensen <Jes.Sorensen@redhat.com>
Cc: "libvir-list@redhat.com" <libvir-list@redhat.com>,
	Stefan Hajnoczi <stefanha@gmail.com>,
	Eric Blake <eblake@redhat.com>,
	QEMU Developers <qemu-devel@nongnu.org>,
	Stefan Hajnoczi <stefanha@linux.vnet.ibm.com>
Subject: Re: [Qemu-devel] live snapshot wiki updated
Date: Wed, 20 Jul 2011 10:38:06 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20110720093806.GB5015@redhat.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <4E269149.4090904@redhat.com>

On Wed, Jul 20, 2011 at 10:26:49AM +0200, Jes Sorensen wrote:
> On 07/19/11 18:47, Daniel P. Berrange wrote:
> > On Tue, Jul 19, 2011 at 04:30:19PM +0200, Jes Sorensen wrote:
> >> On 07/19/11 16:24, Eric Blake wrote:
> >>> Besides, I feel that having a well-documented file format, so that
> >>> independent applications can both parse the same file with the same
> >>> semantics by obeying the file format specification, is a good design goal.
> >>
> >> We all know that documentation is rarely uptodate, new features may not
> >> get added and libvirt will never be able to keep up. The driver for a
> >> file format belongs in QEMU and nowhere else.
> > 
> > This would be possible if QEMU to provide a libblockformat.so library
> > which allowed apps to extract metadata from file formats using a stable
> > API.
> 
> There is no reason for libvirt or any external process to mess about
> with the internals of image files. You have the same problem if the
> image file is encrypted.

Just repeating "libvirt doesn't need todo this" many times doesn't make
it true. I have described why we need to read the disk image to determine
its backing files ahead of QEMU being launched quite clearly.

Daniel
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  reply	other threads:[~2011-07-20  9:38 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 55+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2011-07-15 14:58 [Qemu-devel] live snapshot wiki updated Jes Sorensen
2011-07-18 14:08 ` Stefan Hajnoczi
2011-07-19  7:24   ` Jes Sorensen
2011-07-19 13:23     ` Stefan Hajnoczi
2011-07-19 13:27       ` Jes Sorensen
2011-07-19 13:58         ` Eric Blake
2011-07-19 14:09           ` Jes Sorensen
2011-07-19 14:24             ` Eric Blake
2011-07-19 14:30               ` Jes Sorensen
2011-07-19 15:14                 ` Stefan Hajnoczi
2011-07-19 16:46                   ` Daniel P. Berrange
2011-07-20  7:30                     ` Markus Armbruster
2011-07-20  8:23                     ` Jes Sorensen
2011-07-20  9:36                       ` Daniel P. Berrange
2011-07-20 10:15                         ` [Qemu-devel] [libvirt] " Nicolas Sebrecht
2011-07-20 10:28                           ` Daniel P. Berrange
2011-07-20 11:40                             ` [Qemu-devel] [libvirt] " Stefan Hajnoczi
     [not found]                             ` <4E27E610.7090502@redhat.com>
     [not found]                               ` <4E282DE6.1020603@redhat.com>
     [not found]                                 ` <4E283554.4080903@redhat.com>
2011-07-21 14:51                                   ` Eric Blake
     [not found]                         ` <4E27E5A2.2030208@redhat.com>
     [not found]                           ` <4E28317D.9020502@redhat.com>
2011-07-21 15:01                             ` [Qemu-devel] " Stefan Hajnoczi
2011-07-21 19:42                               ` Blue Swirl
2011-07-22  5:06                                 ` Stefan Hajnoczi
2011-07-22 15:49                                   ` Blue Swirl
2011-07-22  7:22                               ` Kevin Wolf
2011-07-22  9:11                                 ` Stefan Hajnoczi
2011-07-22 16:05                                   ` Blue Swirl
2011-07-20  9:50                     ` Kevin Wolf
2011-07-20 10:18                       ` Daniel P. Berrange
2011-07-19 16:14                 ` Anthony Liguori
2011-07-20  8:25                   ` Jes Sorensen
2011-07-20 10:01                     ` Kevin Wolf
2011-07-20 13:25                       ` Jes Sorensen
2011-07-20 13:46                         ` Eric Blake
2011-07-20 17:27                           ` Blue Swirl
2011-07-20 17:47                             ` Eric Blake
2011-07-20 19:51                               ` Blue Swirl
     [not found]                                 ` <4E27DE5D.5050502@redhat.com>
2011-07-21 19:34                                   ` Blue Swirl
2011-07-20 13:51                         ` Kevin Wolf
2011-07-20 17:20                           ` Blue Swirl
2011-07-20 17:41                             ` Eric Blake
2011-07-20 18:00                               ` Blue Swirl
2011-07-20 18:17                                 ` Eric Blake
2011-07-20 20:01                                   ` Blue Swirl
2011-07-20 20:10                                     ` Eric Blake
     [not found]                             ` <4E27E280.2060306@redhat.com>
2011-07-21 19:01                               ` Blue Swirl
2011-07-22  7:36                           ` Avi Kivity
2011-07-22  8:11                             ` Kevin Wolf
2011-07-22 16:09                               ` Blue Swirl
2011-07-20 13:50                   ` Cleber Rosa
2011-07-20 14:34                     ` Anthony Liguori
2011-07-20 18:34                       ` Cleber Rosa
2011-07-19 16:47                 ` Daniel P. Berrange
2011-07-20  8:26                   ` Jes Sorensen
2011-07-20  9:38                     ` Daniel P. Berrange [this message]
2011-07-20 14:35                   ` Anthony Liguori
2011-07-21 18:56                   ` Michael Roth

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