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From: "Richard W.M. Jones" <rjones@redhat.com>
To: Anthony Liguori <anthony@codemonkey.ws>
Cc: Peter Maydell <peter.maydell@linaro.org>,
	Jan Kiszka <jan.kiszka@siemens.com>,
	qemu-devel <qemu-devel@nongnu.org>,
	Alexander Graf <agraf@suse.de>,
	Ian Campbell <Ian.Campbell@eu.citrix.com>,
	Anthony PERARD <anthony.perard@citrix.com>
Subject: Re: [Qemu-devel] [RESEND][PATCH v3] Generalize -machine command line option
Date: Mon, 25 Jul 2011 13:49:40 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20110725124940.GS2532@amd.home.annexia.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <4E2D65F7.3040703@codemonkey.ws>

On Mon, Jul 25, 2011 at 07:47:51AM -0500, Anthony Liguori wrote:
> On 07/25/2011 07:44 AM, Alexander Graf wrote:
> >
> >On 25.07.2011, at 14:05, Peter Maydell wrote:
> >
> >>On 25 July 2011 12:48, Peter Maydell<peter.maydell@linaro.org>  wrote:
> >>>For ARM you absolutely should not be relying on the default
> >>>machine type (not least because it's an incredibly ancient
> >>>dev board which nobody uses any more). An ARM kernel is
> >>>generally fairly specific to the hardware platform being
> >>>emulated, so you should know which machine you're intending
> >>>to run on and specify it explicitly.
> >>
> >>In fact having thought about it a bit I'm going to go further
> >>and say that the whole idea of a "default machine" is a rather
> >>x86-centric idea -- most architectures don't really have a
> >>single machine type that's used by just about everybody,
> >>always has been, and isn't likely to become obsolete in the
> >>future. So if we're reworking the command line API to
> >>supersede "-M" then we shouldn't have a default at all.
> >
> >That's not exactly true. For PPC, everyone so far expects a Mac to pop up.
> 
> Except if you're running on an IBM Power box, then you definitely
> expect a pseries guest to pop up.
> 
> We really need to enable the default config file (yes, we have a
> default config file) can express the default machine.

+1 to this.

I was going to say there's missing information here, ie. if I had a
Debian/arm kernel know, what machine should I use, but it looks like a
config file would provide this missing information.

Rich.

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  reply	other threads:[~2011-07-25 12:49 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 23+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2011-07-23 10:38 [Qemu-devel] [RESEND][PATCH v3] Generalize -machine command line option Jan Kiszka
2011-07-23 10:39 ` [Qemu-devel] [RESEND][PATCH 2/2] Deprecate -M command line options Jan Kiszka
2011-07-23 15:43 ` [Qemu-devel] [RESEND][PATCH v3] Generalize -machine command line option Anthony Liguori
2011-07-25  9:41 ` Richard W.M. Jones
2011-07-25 10:33   ` Jan Kiszka
2011-07-25 10:45     ` Richard W.M. Jones
2011-07-25 10:59       ` Jan Kiszka
2011-07-25 11:39         ` Markus Armbruster
2011-07-25 11:48           ` Jan Kiszka
2011-07-25 16:11             ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH] Allow to leave type on default in -machine Jan Kiszka
2011-07-25 16:21               ` Richard W.M. Jones
2011-07-25 16:33                 ` Alexander Graf
2011-07-29 14:37               ` Anthony Liguori
2011-07-25 12:23         ` [Qemu-devel] [RESEND][PATCH v3] Generalize -machine command line option Anthony Liguori
2011-07-25 11:48       ` Peter Maydell
2011-07-25 12:05         ` Peter Maydell
2011-07-25 12:18           ` Jan Kiszka
2011-07-25 12:22             ` Peter Maydell
2011-07-25 12:27               ` Jan Kiszka
2011-07-25 12:44           ` Alexander Graf
2011-07-25 12:47             ` Anthony Liguori
2011-07-25 12:49               ` Richard W.M. Jones [this message]
2011-07-25 12:53                 ` Alexander Graf

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