From: Luiz Capitulino <lcapitulino@redhat.com>
To: "Daniel P. Berrange" <berrange@redhat.com>
Cc: Blue Swirl <blauwirbel@gmail.com>, Jan Kiszka <jan.kiszka@web.de>,
Avi Kivity <avi@redhat.com>, qemu-devel <qemu-devel@nongnu.org>
Subject: Re: [Qemu-devel] [RFC] Introduce vm_stop_permanent()
Date: Tue, 2 Aug 2011 16:07:08 -0300 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20110802160708.0c8d8d3e@doriath> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20110802102215.GA2534@redhat.com>
On Tue, 2 Aug 2011 11:22:15 +0100
"Daniel P. Berrange" <berrange@redhat.com> wrote:
> On Thu, Jul 28, 2011 at 10:31:43AM -0300, Luiz Capitulino wrote:
> > On Thu, 28 Jul 2011 10:23:22 +0300
> > Avi Kivity <avi@redhat.com> wrote:
> >
> > > On 07/28/2011 12:44 AM, Blue Swirl wrote:
> > > > On Wed, Jul 27, 2011 at 9:42 PM, Luiz Capitulino<lcapitulino@redhat.com> wrote:
> > > > > This function should be used when the VM is not supposed to resume
> > > > > execution (eg. by issuing 'cont' monitor command).
> > > > >
> > > > > Today, we allow the user to resume execution even when:
> > > > >
> > > > > o the guest shuts down and -no-shutdown is used
> > > > > o there's a kvm internal error
> > > > > o loading the VM state with -loadvm or "loadvm" in the monitor fails
> > > > >
> > > > > I think only badness can happen from the cases above.
> > > >
> > > > I'd suppose a system_reset should bring the system back to sanity and
> > > > then clear vm_permanent_stopped (where's -ly?)
> >
> > What's -ly?
> >
> > > > except maybe for KVM
> > > > internal error if that can't be recovered. Then it would not very
> > > > permanent anymore, so the name would need adjusting.
> > >
> > > Currently, all kvm internal errors are recoverable by reset (and
> > > possibly by fiddling with memory/registers).
> >
> > Ok, but a poweroff in the guest isn't recoverable with system_reset
> > right? Or does it depend on the guest?
> >
> > I get funny results if qemu is started with -no-shutdown and I run cont after
> > a poweroff in a F15 guest. Sometimes qemu will exit after a few seconds,
> > sometimes 'info status' will say 'running'.
>
> libvirt uses this approach to fake a controlled soft reboot of guests.
> eg
>
> $ qemu .... -no-shutdown
> ...some time later...
> system_shutdown
> ...wait for SHUTDOWN event...
> system_reset
> cont
>
> Previous releases of QEMU had a bug in some device backends which would
> cause a crash sometimes, but in general it ought to work IMHO.
Yes, you're doing a system_reset before cont, that's ok.
The problem happens when you issue cont w/o issuing system_reset first.
prev parent reply other threads:[~2011-08-02 19:07 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 19+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2011-07-27 18:42 [Qemu-devel] [RFC] Introduce vm_stop_permanent() Luiz Capitulino
2011-07-27 21:44 ` Blue Swirl
2011-07-28 7:23 ` Avi Kivity
2011-07-28 13:31 ` Luiz Capitulino
2011-07-28 13:37 ` Avi Kivity
2011-07-28 14:19 ` Jan Kiszka
2011-07-28 15:18 ` Luiz Capitulino
2011-07-28 15:20 ` Jan Kiszka
2011-07-28 17:39 ` Luiz Capitulino
2011-07-28 17:48 ` Luiz Capitulino
2011-07-28 17:52 ` Jan Kiszka
2011-07-28 18:00 ` Luiz Capitulino
2011-07-28 18:04 ` Jan Kiszka
2011-07-28 18:22 ` Luiz Capitulino
2011-07-28 18:28 ` Alon Levy
2011-07-30 7:41 ` Blue Swirl
2011-08-01 12:46 ` Luiz Capitulino
2011-08-02 10:22 ` Daniel P. Berrange
2011-08-02 19:07 ` Luiz Capitulino [this message]
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