From: Ryan Harper <ryanh@us.ibm.com>
To: Stefan Hajnoczi <stefanha@gmail.com>
Cc: Kevin Wolf <kwolf@redhat.com>, qemu-devel <qemu-devel@nongnu.org>,
Christoph Hellwig <hch@lst.de>
Subject: Re: [Qemu-devel] Block layer roadmap on wiki
Date: Mon, 22 Aug 2011 09:27:12 -0500 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20110822142712.GR5792@us.ibm.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CAJSP0QVEgutx83zp_fXUt6LzHz-2oUoBAfGNirdPzP6ssdgujg@mail.gmail.com>
* Stefan Hajnoczi <stefanha@gmail.com> [2011-08-22 08:35]:
> At KVM Forum Kevin, Christoph, and I had an opportunity to get
> together for a Block Layer BoF. We went through the recent "roadmap"
> mailing list thread and touched on each proposed feature.
>
> Here is the block layer roadmap wiki page:
> http://wiki.qemu.org/BlockRoadmap
>
> Kevin: I have moved the runtime WCE toggling to QEMU 1.0 since you
> mentioned you want it for the next release.
>
> My main take-away from the BoF was that integrating support for host
> block devices and storage appliances will allow us to reduce the
> amount of effort spent on image formats. In order to make image
> formats support the desired features and performance we end up
> implementing much of the storage stack and file systems in userspace -
> code that is duplicated and cannot take advantage of the existing
> storage stack.
+1
>
> Storage management features are not just available in remote SAN and
> NAS appliances anymore. For local storage, btrfs has file-level
> clones and thin-dev is significantly improving LVM snapshots.
>
> Thin-dev is bringing a much more efficient and scalable snapshot model
> to LVM. This device-mapper feature will make LVM attractive for high
> performance I/O without giving up snapshot and clone features. It
> also supports cloning off block devices that are not in the pool (e.g.
> external storage, much like QEMU's backing files feature):
> https://github.com/jthornber/linux-2.6/tree/thin-dev
>
> This will not replace image formats overnight because image formats
> are still widely used and will continue to be a useful for
> transferring and sharing disk images. But focussing on the larger
Any thoughts on how to make this easily usable for LVM? If there were
an export/import to/from file to LVM? is that sufficient? Anything
like this in existence?
> storage stack where either local LVM, btrfs, or storage appliances do
> the storage management means we exploit those options instead of
> implementing equivalent functionality ourselves. QEMU then runs with
> plain old raw in more cases.
>
> Stefan
--
Ryan Harper
Software Engineer; Linux Technology Center
IBM Corp., Austin, Tx
ryanh@us.ibm.com
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2011-08-22 14:27 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 10+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2011-08-22 13:34 [Qemu-devel] Block layer roadmap on wiki Stefan Hajnoczi
2011-08-22 14:27 ` Ryan Harper [this message]
2011-08-22 17:58 ` Stefan Hajnoczi
2011-08-22 19:04 ` Anthony Liguori
2011-08-22 20:31 ` Stefan Hajnoczi
2011-08-22 20:48 ` Ryan Harper
2011-08-22 21:01 ` Anthony Liguori
2011-08-23 7:59 ` Stefan Hajnoczi
2011-08-23 11:25 ` Kevin Wolf
2011-08-23 12:21 ` Stefan Hajnoczi
Reply instructions:
You may reply publicly to this message via plain-text email
using any one of the following methods:
* Save the following mbox file, import it into your mail client,
and reply-to-all from there: mbox
Avoid top-posting and favor interleaved quoting:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Posting_style#Interleaved_style
* Reply using the --to, --cc, and --in-reply-to
switches of git-send-email(1):
git send-email \
--in-reply-to=20110822142712.GR5792@us.ibm.com \
--to=ryanh@us.ibm.com \
--cc=hch@lst.de \
--cc=kwolf@redhat.com \
--cc=qemu-devel@nongnu.org \
--cc=stefanha@gmail.com \
/path/to/YOUR_REPLY
https://kernel.org/pub/software/scm/git/docs/git-send-email.html
* If your mail client supports setting the In-Reply-To header
via mailto: links, try the mailto: link
Be sure your reply has a Subject: header at the top and a blank line
before the message body.
This is a public inbox, see mirroring instructions
for how to clone and mirror all data and code used for this inbox;
as well as URLs for NNTP newsgroup(s).