From: Joerg Roedel <joerg.roedel@amd.com>
To: Aaron Fabbri <aafabbri@cisco.com>
Cc: Alexey Kardashevskiy <aik@au1.ibm.com>,
"kvm@vger.kernel.org" <kvm@vger.kernel.org>,
Paul Mackerras <pmac@au1.ibm.com>,
"linux-pci@vger.kernel.org" <linux-pci@vger.kernel.org>,
qemu-devel <qemu-devel@nongnu.org>,
iommu <iommu@lists.linux-foundation.org>,
chrisw <chrisw@sous-sol.org>,
Alex Williamson <alex.williamson@redhat.com>,
Avi Kivity <avi@redhat.com>,
linuxppc-dev <linuxppc-dev@lists.ozlabs.org>,
"benve@cisco.com" <benve@cisco.com>
Subject: Re: [Qemu-devel] kvm PCI assignment & VFIO ramblings
Date: Wed, 24 Aug 2011 11:10:35 +0200 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20110824091035.GD2079@amd.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CA79326A.FB97%aafabbri@cisco.com>
On Tue, Aug 23, 2011 at 01:33:14PM -0400, Aaron Fabbri wrote:
> On 8/23/11 10:01 AM, "Alex Williamson" <alex.williamson@redhat.com> wrote:
> > The iommu domain would probably be allocated when the first device is
> > bound to vfio. As each device is bound, it gets attached to the group.
> > DMAs are done via an ioctl on the group.
> >
> > I think group + uiommu leads to effectively reliving most of the
> > problems with the current code. The only benefit is the group
> > assignment to enforce hardware restrictions. We still have the problem
> > that uiommu open() = iommu_domain_alloc(), whose properties are
> > meaningless without attached devices (groups). Which I think leads to
> > the same awkward model of attaching groups to define the domain, then we
> > end up doing mappings via the group to enforce ordering.
>
> Is there a better way to allow groups to share an IOMMU domain?
>
> Maybe, instead of having an ioctl to allow a group A to inherit the same
> iommu domain as group B, we could have an ioctl to fully merge two groups
> (could be what Ben was thinking):
>
> A.ioctl(MERGE_TO_GROUP, B)
>
> The group A now goes away and its devices join group B. If A ever had an
> iommu domain assigned (and buffers mapped?) we fail.
>
> Groups cannot get smaller (they are defined as minimum granularity of an
> IOMMU, initially). They can get bigger if you want to share IOMMU
> resources, though.
>
> Any downsides to this approach?
As long as this is a 2-way road its fine. There must be a way to split
the groups again after the guest exits. But then we are again at the
super-groups (aka meta-groups, aka uiommu) point.
Joerg
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Thread overview: 93+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
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2011-07-30 18:20 ` [Qemu-devel] kvm PCI assignment & VFIO ramblings Alex Williamson
2011-07-30 23:54 ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2011-08-01 18:59 ` Alex Williamson
2011-08-02 2:00 ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2011-07-30 23:55 ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2011-08-02 8:28 ` David Gibson
2011-08-02 18:14 ` Alex Williamson
2011-08-02 18:35 ` Alex Williamson
2011-08-03 2:04 ` David Gibson
2011-08-03 3:44 ` Alex Williamson
2011-08-04 0:39 ` David Gibson
2011-08-08 8:28 ` Avi Kivity
2011-08-09 23:24 ` Alex Williamson
2011-08-10 2:48 ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2011-08-20 16:51 ` Alex Williamson
2011-08-22 5:55 ` David Gibson
2011-08-22 15:45 ` Alex Williamson
2011-08-22 21:01 ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2011-08-23 19:30 ` Alex Williamson
2011-08-23 23:51 ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2011-08-24 3:40 ` Alexander Graf
2011-08-24 14:47 ` Alex Williamson
2011-08-24 8:43 ` Joerg Roedel
2011-08-24 14:56 ` Alex Williamson
2011-08-25 11:01 ` Roedel, Joerg
2011-08-23 2:38 ` David Gibson
2011-08-23 16:23 ` Alex Williamson
2011-08-23 23:41 ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2011-08-24 3:36 ` Alexander Graf
2011-08-22 6:30 ` Avi Kivity
2011-08-22 10:46 ` Joerg Roedel
2011-08-22 10:51 ` Avi Kivity
2011-08-22 12:36 ` Roedel, Joerg
2011-08-22 12:42 ` Avi Kivity
2011-08-22 12:55 ` Roedel, Joerg
2011-08-22 13:06 ` Avi Kivity
2011-08-22 13:15 ` Roedel, Joerg
2011-08-22 13:17 ` Avi Kivity
2011-08-22 14:37 ` Roedel, Joerg
2011-08-22 20:53 ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2011-08-22 17:25 ` Joerg Roedel
2011-08-22 19:17 ` Alex Williamson
2011-08-23 13:14 ` Roedel, Joerg
2011-08-23 17:08 ` Alex Williamson
2011-08-24 8:52 ` Roedel, Joerg
2011-08-24 15:07 ` Alex Williamson
2011-08-25 12:31 ` Roedel, Joerg
2011-08-25 13:25 ` Alexander Graf
2011-08-26 4:24 ` David Gibson
2011-08-26 9:24 ` Roedel, Joerg
2011-08-28 13:14 ` Avi Kivity
2011-08-28 13:56 ` Joerg Roedel
2011-08-28 14:04 ` Avi Kivity
2011-08-30 16:14 ` Joerg Roedel
2011-08-22 21:03 ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2011-08-23 13:18 ` Roedel, Joerg
2011-08-23 23:35 ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2011-08-24 8:53 ` Roedel, Joerg
2011-08-22 20:29 ` aafabbri
2011-08-22 20:49 ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2011-08-22 21:38 ` aafabbri
2011-08-22 21:49 ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2011-08-23 0:52 ` aafabbri
2011-08-23 6:54 ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2011-08-23 11:09 ` Joerg Roedel
2011-08-23 17:01 ` Alex Williamson
2011-08-23 17:33 ` Aaron Fabbri
2011-08-23 18:01 ` Alex Williamson
2011-08-24 9:10 ` Joerg Roedel [this message]
2011-08-24 21:13 ` Alex Williamson
2011-08-25 10:54 ` Roedel, Joerg
2011-08-25 15:38 ` Don Dutile
2011-08-25 16:46 ` Roedel, Joerg
2011-08-25 17:20 ` Alex Williamson
2011-08-25 18:05 ` Joerg Roedel
2011-08-26 18:04 ` Alex Williamson
2011-08-30 16:13 ` Joerg Roedel
2011-08-23 11:04 ` Joerg Roedel
2011-08-23 16:54 ` aafabbri
2011-08-24 9:14 ` Roedel, Joerg
2011-08-24 9:33 ` David Gibson
2011-08-24 11:03 ` Roedel, Joerg
2011-08-26 4:20 ` David Gibson
2011-08-26 9:33 ` Roedel, Joerg
2011-08-26 14:07 ` Alexander Graf
2011-08-26 15:24 ` Joerg Roedel
2011-08-26 15:29 ` Alexander Graf
2011-08-26 17:52 ` Aaron Fabbri
2011-08-26 19:35 ` Chris Wright
2011-08-26 20:17 ` Aaron Fabbri
2011-08-26 21:06 ` Chris Wright
2011-08-30 1:29 ` David Gibson
2011-08-04 10:35 ` Joerg Roedel
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