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From: "Michael S. Tsirkin" <mst@redhat.com>
To: Scott Wood <scottwood@freescale.com>
Cc: Wood Scott-B07421 <B07421@freescale.com>,
	"kvm@vger.kernel.org" <kvm@vger.kernel.org>,
	"Joerg.Roedel@amd.com" <Joerg.Roedel@amd.com>,
	"qemu-devel@nongnu.org" <qemu-devel@nongnu.org>,
	Alexander Graf <agraf@suse.de>,
	Yoder Stuart-B08248 <B08248@freescale.com>,
	"alex.williamson@redhat.com" <alex.williamson@redhat.com>,
	"avi@redhat.com" <avi@redhat.com>,
	David Gibson <david@gibson.dropbear.id.au>
Subject: Re: [Qemu-devel] RFC: vfio / device assignment -- layout of device fd files
Date: Fri, 2 Sep 2011 18:57:11 +0300	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20110902155710.GA18389@redhat.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <4E5FEA59.7070201@freescale.com>

On Thu, Sep 01, 2011 at 03:26:01PM -0500, Scott Wood wrote:
> On 09/01/2011 03:00 PM, Michael S. Tsirkin wrote:
> > That's a very rich interface, and easy to get wrong.
> > AFAIK the only reason vfio uses read/write for PCI was to avoid inventing
> > a custom interface. But if you do, it looks like a set of ioctls would
> > be much easier? You can even fit the existing uio infrastructure if you like.
> 
> How would it be easier than producing/parsing a static data structure?
> What would it look like?

For example, for a property X, instead of adding a structure
with identifier X, implement ioctl GET_X. Userspace
calls this ioctl, an error implies the property
is not present.


> > Here's another idea:  all the information is likely already available
> > in sysfs.
> 
> The only major thing that is likely available elsewhere is PCI config
> space, and that was not new to this proposal.
> Most other material is specifically related to the vfio/dtio interface
> (e.g. offsets into the file handle, arguments to the "get irq fd" ioctl,
> mapping of dtio regions/interrupts to device tree nodes), and could not
> be "useful to more than just vfio".

For example resources are already there in sysfs.

> > A way to query where the device is in sysfs
> > would give you *a ton* of information, including the type etc,
> 
> For PCI, the user has domain/bus/dev/fn which should be sufficient to
> find that, if desired.  For device-tree devices, there's a device tree
> path provided for each region/interrupt.
> 
> -Scott

So you are saying the user already has sysfs path?
I thought the point was to pass all info through
a single fd.

  reply	other threads:[~2011-09-02 15:56 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 13+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2011-08-29 16:51 [Qemu-devel] RFC: vfio / device assignment -- layout of device fd files Yoder Stuart-B08248
2011-08-29 19:04 ` Anthony Liguori
2011-08-29 19:32   ` Scott Wood
2011-08-29 19:51 ` Alex Williamson
2011-08-29 21:58   ` Scott Wood
2011-08-29 22:46     ` Alex Williamson
2011-08-29 23:14       ` Scott Wood
2011-08-30  4:55         ` Alex Williamson
2011-08-30 16:54           ` Scott Wood
2011-09-01 20:00 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2011-09-01 20:26   ` Scott Wood
2011-09-02 15:57     ` Michael S. Tsirkin [this message]
2011-09-02 17:50       ` Scott Wood

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