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From: "Michael S. Tsirkin" <mst@redhat.com>
To: Paolo Bonzini <pbonzini@redhat.com>
Cc: aliguori@us.ibm.com, aik@ozlabs.ru, rusty@rustcorp.com.au,
	agraf@suse.de, qemu-devel@nongnu.org,
	David Gibson <david@gibson.dropbear.id.au>
Subject: Re: [Qemu-devel] [PATCH] virtio: Make memory barriers be memory barriers
Date: Sun, 4 Sep 2011 11:47:50 +0300	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20110904084750.GB18368@redhat.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <4E62538B.7030409@redhat.com>

On Sat, Sep 03, 2011 at 06:19:23PM +0200, Paolo Bonzini wrote:
> On 09/02/2011 05:45 PM, Michael S. Tsirkin wrote:
> >Well, can you describe an issue in virtio that lfence/sfence help solve
> >in terms of a memory model please?
> >Pls note that guest uses smp_ variants for barriers.
> 
>     /* Make sure buffer is written before we update index. */
>     wmb();
> 
> Without it, a guest could see a partially updated buffer, because
> the buffer and index writes are unlocked stores to different
> locations.

Sorry, I still don't understand. Yes, they are unlocked stores to different
locations. How does it follow that a guest could see a partially updated
buffer? Just to make sure - we are talking about x86 here, not ppc,
right?

> Even if the guest uses barriers, with ioeventfd it will only order
> the CPU that is running the guest, not the one that is running the
> iothread.  In fact I'm surprised that it works at all under x86 with
> ioeventfd.
> 
> Paolo

I can try to explain if I understand the problem you see.

-- 
MST

  reply	other threads:[~2011-09-04  8:47 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 32+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2011-09-01  6:09 [Qemu-devel] [PATCH] virtio: Make memory barriers be memory barriers David Gibson
2011-09-01  6:47 ` Paolo Bonzini
2011-09-02  0:08   ` David Gibson
2011-09-02  6:49     ` Paolo Bonzini
2011-09-03 11:53       ` Blue Swirl
2011-09-01  7:37 ` Sasha Levin
2011-09-01  7:38   ` Sasha Levin
2011-09-01  7:56   ` Paolo Bonzini
2011-09-02  0:09     ` David Gibson
2011-09-01 15:30 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2011-09-01 16:14   ` Paolo Bonzini
2011-09-01 16:34     ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2011-09-01 20:31       ` Paolo Bonzini
2011-09-02 15:45         ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2011-09-03 14:46           ` David Gibson
2011-09-04  9:16             ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2011-09-05  4:43               ` David Gibson
2011-09-05  9:19                 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2011-09-06  3:12                   ` David Gibson
2011-09-06  6:55                     ` Paolo Bonzini
2011-09-06  9:02                       ` David Gibson
2011-09-06  9:28                       ` Avi Kivity
2011-09-06  9:35                         ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2011-09-06  9:38                         ` Paolo Bonzini
2011-09-05  7:41               ` Paolo Bonzini
2011-09-05  8:06                 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2011-09-05  9:42                   ` Paolo Bonzini
2011-09-03 16:19           ` Paolo Bonzini
2011-09-04  8:47             ` Michael S. Tsirkin [this message]
2011-09-02  0:11     ` David Gibson
2011-09-02  6:11       ` Paolo Bonzini
2011-09-02 15:57         ` Michael S. Tsirkin

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