From: "Michael S. Tsirkin" <mst@redhat.com>
To: Avi Kivity <avi@redhat.com>
Cc: Kevin Wolf <kwolf@redhat.com>,
Isaku Yamahata <yamahata@valinux.co.jp>,
qemu-devel@nongnu.org
Subject: Re: [Qemu-devel] [PATCH] pci: add standard bridge device
Date: Sun, 4 Sep 2011 15:30:06 +0300 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20110904123006.GA23500@redhat.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <4E5A485D.1020904@redhat.com>
On Sun, Aug 28, 2011 at 04:53:33PM +0300, Avi Kivity wrote:
> On 08/28/2011 04:42 PM, Michael S. Tsirkin wrote:
> >On Sun, Aug 28, 2011 at 04:10:14PM +0300, Avi Kivity wrote:
> >> On 08/28/2011 02:41 PM, Michael S. Tsirkin wrote:
> >> >>
> >> >> If it really matters, you can add a prefetchability attribute to
> >> >> MemoryRegions. Does it though?
> >> >
> >> >Well, its another one of these things that
> >> >guests *probably* won't in practice use.
> >> >But I don't see a way to be sure.
> >> >
> >> >If the guest puts a prefetcheable memory BAR behind
> >> >a non-prefetcheable range in the bridge, it won't
> >> >be able to access that BAR, and it should.
> >>
> >> Not sure I understand - on real hardware, does it see the BAR or not?
> >
> >It does.
>
> Ok, was different from what I thought. So anything that matches the
> two windows is exposed (after clipping). If the guest enables the
> legacy vga range, then there are three regions, with equal
> treatment, yes?
>
> >ATM we have each BAR as a memory region, which is
> >in turn within io or memory address space region.
> >With bridges, each bridge has a single range
> >covering legal io addresses below it, and two ranges for memory.
> >
> >Example from a real system:
> > Memory behind bridge: 98200000-982fffff
> > Prefetchable memory behind bridge: 0000000097000000-00000000977fffff
> >
> >And a device can have:
> >
> > Region 0: Memory at 98200000 (64-bit, non-prefetchable) [size=1M]
> > Region 2: Memory at 97000000 (64-bit, prefetchable) [size=8M]
> >
> >
> >guest can in theory reprogram this:
> >
> > Memory behind bridge: 98200000-98afffff
> > Prefetchable memory behind bridge: 0000000097000000-00000000977fffff
> >
> >and
> > Region 0: Memory at 98200000 (64-bit, non-prefetchable) [size=1M]
> > Region 2: Memory at 98300000 (64-bit, prefetchable) [size=8M]
> >
> >and the device will work (presumably, guests will try to avoid this
> >as they assume prefetchable ranges are faster).
>
> >Thus, which range the device BAR is behind depends on the
> >programmed values. How do we model that?
>
> Create a memory region for the bridge's address space. This region
> is not directly added to system_memory or its descendants.
I do this for each bridge in the hierarchy, right?
> Devices
> under the bridge see this region as its pci_address_space(). The
> region is as large as the entire address space - it does not take
> into account any windows.
>
> For each of the three windows (pref, non-pref, vga), create an alias
> with the appropriate start and size. Map the alias into the
> bridge's parent's pci_address_space(), as subregions.
>
> fx440 does exactly this, with the following cosmetic changes:
>
> - the windows are different (vga, pci hole, 64-bit pci area, PAMx, SMRAM)
> - instead of mapping them to the parent bridge's
> pci_address_space(), we map them to get_system_memory()
>
> >A side note on bus filtering:
> >In cases of bus range partially hinding the BAR from the guest, one can
> >even have multiple non-contigious bits of the BAR visible and the rest
> >hidden.
>
> The memory API will deal with this perfectly.
>
> >I'm not saying it's very important to model this,
> >I'm guessing the only important cases are all of the
> >BAR visible and all of the BAR hidden.
>
> It should all work. Including a sub-bridge's windows being
> fragmented by the parent bridge. Too bad it doesn't matter in
> practice, because it's a really neat solution to this non-problem.
Hmm, what ties the windows of a child bridge
to be within the windows of a parent?
> --
> error compiling committee.c: too many arguments to function
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2011-09-04 12:29 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 71+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2011-07-04 9:43 [Qemu-devel] [PATCH] pci: add standard bridge device Michael S. Tsirkin
2011-07-05 13:29 ` Isaku Yamahata
2011-07-05 13:43 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2011-08-17 8:37 ` Wen Congyang
2011-08-18 3:22 ` Wen Congyang
2011-08-18 15:15 ` Avi Kivity
2011-08-19 5:12 ` Wen Congyang
2011-08-19 15:26 ` Avi Kivity
2011-08-22 3:13 ` Wen Congyang
2011-08-22 6:23 ` Avi Kivity
2011-09-02 1:32 ` Wen Congyang
2011-09-02 2:56 ` Wen Congyang
2011-09-04 8:25 ` Avi Kivity
2011-09-06 3:06 ` Wen Congyang
2011-09-06 7:45 ` Avi Kivity
2011-09-07 4:39 ` Wen Congyang
2011-09-07 11:52 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2011-09-08 6:15 ` Wen Congyang
2011-09-08 7:26 ` Wen Congyang
2011-09-08 9:43 ` Gerd Hoffmann
2011-09-08 9:58 ` Wen Congyang
2011-09-08 10:42 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2011-09-08 11:03 ` Wen Congyang
2011-09-08 11:13 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2011-09-09 6:43 ` Wen Congyang
2011-09-09 7:12 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2011-09-09 7:24 ` Wen Congyang
2011-09-09 7:34 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2011-09-09 7:35 ` Wen Congyang
2011-08-26 9:43 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2011-08-28 7:50 ` Avi Kivity
2011-08-28 11:41 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2011-08-28 13:10 ` Avi Kivity
2011-08-28 13:42 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2011-08-28 13:53 ` Avi Kivity
2011-09-04 12:30 ` Michael S. Tsirkin [this message]
2011-09-04 12:40 ` Avi Kivity
2011-09-04 13:01 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2011-09-04 13:05 ` Avi Kivity
2011-09-04 13:09 ` Avi Kivity
2011-09-04 13:41 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2011-09-04 13:55 ` Avi Kivity
2011-09-04 14:21 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2011-09-04 14:36 ` Avi Kivity
2011-09-04 14:54 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2011-09-04 15:14 ` Avi Kivity
2011-09-04 15:24 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2011-09-04 15:37 ` Avi Kivity
2011-09-04 15:45 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2011-09-04 15:46 ` Avi Kivity
2011-09-04 16:19 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2011-09-04 16:22 ` Avi Kivity
2011-09-04 17:03 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2011-09-05 5:36 ` Avi Kivity
2011-09-04 15:26 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2011-09-04 15:42 ` Avi Kivity
2011-09-04 15:46 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2011-09-04 15:49 ` Avi Kivity
2011-09-04 16:20 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2011-08-26 9:57 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2011-09-04 17:11 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2011-09-05 8:17 ` Markus Armbruster
2011-09-05 9:38 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2011-09-05 9:53 ` Gerd Hoffmann
2011-09-05 11:40 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2011-09-06 9:18 ` Markus Armbruster
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2011-11-01 8:49 ` Wen Congyang
2011-11-01 11:48 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2011-11-02 1:00 ` Wen Congyang
2011-11-02 2:15 ` Isaku Yamahata
2011-11-02 2:38 ` Wen Congyang
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