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From: "Michael S. Tsirkin" <mst@redhat.com>
To: Avi Kivity <avi@redhat.com>
Cc: Kevin Wolf <kwolf@redhat.com>,
	Isaku Yamahata <yamahata@valinux.co.jp>,
	qemu-devel@nongnu.org
Subject: Re: [Qemu-devel] [PATCH] pci: add standard bridge device
Date: Sun, 4 Sep 2011 15:30:06 +0300	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20110904123006.GA23500@redhat.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <4E5A485D.1020904@redhat.com>

On Sun, Aug 28, 2011 at 04:53:33PM +0300, Avi Kivity wrote:
> On 08/28/2011 04:42 PM, Michael S. Tsirkin wrote:
> >On Sun, Aug 28, 2011 at 04:10:14PM +0300, Avi Kivity wrote:
> >>  On 08/28/2011 02:41 PM, Michael S. Tsirkin wrote:
> >>  >>
> >>  >>   If it really matters, you can add a prefetchability attribute to
> >>  >>   MemoryRegions.  Does it though?
> >>  >
> >>  >Well, its another one of these things that
> >>  >guests *probably* won't in practice use.
> >>  >But I don't see a way to be sure.
> >>  >
> >>  >If the guest puts a prefetcheable memory BAR behind
> >>  >a non-prefetcheable range in the bridge, it won't
> >>  >be able to access that BAR, and it should.
> >>
> >>  Not sure I understand - on real hardware, does it see the BAR or not?
> >
> >It does.
> 
> Ok, was different from what I thought.  So anything that matches the
> two windows is exposed (after clipping).  If the guest enables the
> legacy vga range, then there are three regions, with equal
> treatment, yes?
> 
> >ATM we have each BAR as a memory region, which is
> >in turn within io or memory address space region.
> >With bridges, each bridge has a single range
> >covering legal io addresses below it, and two ranges for memory.
> >
> >Example from a real system:
> >         Memory behind bridge: 98200000-982fffff
> >         Prefetchable memory behind bridge: 0000000097000000-00000000977fffff
> >
> >And a device can have:
> >
> >         Region 0: Memory at 98200000 (64-bit, non-prefetchable) [size=1M]
> >         Region 2: Memory at 97000000 (64-bit, prefetchable) [size=8M]
> >
> >
> >guest can in theory reprogram this:
> >
> >         Memory behind bridge: 98200000-98afffff
> >         Prefetchable memory behind bridge: 0000000097000000-00000000977fffff
> >
> >and
> >         Region 0: Memory at 98200000 (64-bit, non-prefetchable) [size=1M]
> >         Region 2: Memory at 98300000 (64-bit, prefetchable) [size=8M]
> >
> >and the device will work (presumably, guests will try to avoid this
> >as they assume prefetchable ranges are faster).
> 
> >Thus, which range the device BAR is behind depends on the
> >programmed values. How do we model that?
> 
> Create a memory region for the bridge's address space.  This region
> is not directly added to system_memory or its descendants.

I do this for each bridge in the hierarchy, right?

> Devices
> under the bridge see this region as its pci_address_space().  The
> region is as large as the entire address space - it does not take
> into account any windows.
> 
> For each of the three windows (pref, non-pref, vga), create an alias
> with the appropriate start and size.  Map the alias into the
> bridge's parent's pci_address_space(), as subregions.
> 
> fx440 does exactly this, with the following cosmetic changes:
> 
> - the windows are different (vga, pci hole, 64-bit pci area, PAMx, SMRAM)
> - instead of mapping them to the parent bridge's
> pci_address_space(), we map them to get_system_memory()
> 
> >A side note on bus filtering:
> >In cases of bus range partially hinding the BAR from the guest, one can
> >even have multiple non-contigious bits of the BAR visible and the rest
> >hidden.
> 
> The memory API will deal with this perfectly.
> 
> >I'm not saying it's very important to model this,
> >I'm guessing the only important cases are all of the
> >BAR visible and all of the BAR hidden.
> 
> It should all work.  Including a sub-bridge's windows being
> fragmented by the parent bridge.  Too bad it doesn't matter in
> practice, because it's a really neat solution to this non-problem.

Hmm, what ties the windows of a child bridge
to be within the windows of a parent?



> -- 
> error compiling committee.c: too many arguments to function

  reply	other threads:[~2011-09-04 12:29 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 71+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2011-07-04  9:43 [Qemu-devel] [PATCH] pci: add standard bridge device Michael S. Tsirkin
2011-07-05 13:29 ` Isaku Yamahata
2011-07-05 13:43   ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2011-08-17  8:37 ` Wen Congyang
2011-08-18  3:22   ` Wen Congyang
2011-08-18 15:15     ` Avi Kivity
2011-08-19  5:12       ` Wen Congyang
2011-08-19 15:26         ` Avi Kivity
2011-08-22  3:13           ` Wen Congyang
2011-08-22  6:23             ` Avi Kivity
2011-09-02  1:32               ` Wen Congyang
2011-09-02  2:56               ` Wen Congyang
2011-09-04  8:25                 ` Avi Kivity
2011-09-06  3:06                   ` Wen Congyang
2011-09-06  7:45                     ` Avi Kivity
2011-09-07  4:39                       ` Wen Congyang
2011-09-07 11:52                         ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2011-09-08  6:15                           ` Wen Congyang
2011-09-08  7:26                             ` Wen Congyang
2011-09-08  9:43                               ` Gerd Hoffmann
2011-09-08  9:58                                 ` Wen Congyang
2011-09-08 10:42                                   ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2011-09-08 11:03                                     ` Wen Congyang
2011-09-08 11:13                                       ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2011-09-09  6:43           ` Wen Congyang
2011-09-09  7:12             ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2011-09-09  7:24               ` Wen Congyang
2011-09-09  7:34                 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2011-09-09  7:35                   ` Wen Congyang
2011-08-26  9:43       ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2011-08-28  7:50         ` Avi Kivity
2011-08-28 11:41           ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2011-08-28 13:10             ` Avi Kivity
2011-08-28 13:42               ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2011-08-28 13:53                 ` Avi Kivity
2011-09-04 12:30                   ` Michael S. Tsirkin [this message]
2011-09-04 12:40                     ` Avi Kivity
2011-09-04 13:01                       ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2011-09-04 13:05                         ` Avi Kivity
2011-09-04 13:09                           ` Avi Kivity
2011-09-04 13:41                           ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2011-09-04 13:55                             ` Avi Kivity
2011-09-04 14:21                               ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2011-09-04 14:36                                 ` Avi Kivity
2011-09-04 14:54                                   ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2011-09-04 15:14                                     ` Avi Kivity
2011-09-04 15:24                                       ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2011-09-04 15:37                                         ` Avi Kivity
2011-09-04 15:45                                           ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2011-09-04 15:46                                             ` Avi Kivity
2011-09-04 16:19                                               ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2011-09-04 16:22                                                 ` Avi Kivity
2011-09-04 17:03                                                   ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2011-09-05  5:36                                                     ` Avi Kivity
2011-09-04 15:26                                   ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2011-09-04 15:42                                     ` Avi Kivity
2011-09-04 15:46                                       ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2011-09-04 15:49                                         ` Avi Kivity
2011-09-04 16:20                                           ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2011-08-26  9:57     ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2011-09-04 17:11 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2011-09-05  8:17   ` Markus Armbruster
2011-09-05  9:38     ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2011-09-05  9:53       ` Gerd Hoffmann
2011-09-05 11:40         ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2011-09-06  9:18         ` Markus Armbruster
     [not found] ` <4E801927.8020708@cn.fujitsu.com>
     [not found]   ` <20110926070824.GB5860@redhat.com>
     [not found]     ` <4EAF4AFD.6040102@cn.fujitsu.com>
     [not found]       ` <20111101084439.GA11958@redhat.com>
2011-11-01  8:49         ` Wen Congyang
2011-11-01 11:48           ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2011-11-02  1:00             ` Wen Congyang
2011-11-02  2:15           ` Isaku Yamahata
2011-11-02  2:38             ` Wen Congyang

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