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From: "Michael S. Tsirkin" <mst@redhat.com>
To: Stefan Berger <stefanb@linux.vnet.ibm.com>
Cc: chrisw@redhat.com, anbang.ruan@cs.ox.ac.uk,
	qemu-devel@nongnu.org, rrelyea@redhat.com, alevy@redhat.com,
	andreas.niederl@iaik.tugraz.at, serge@hallyn.com
Subject: Re: [Qemu-devel] [PATCH V8 10/14] Encrypt state blobs using AES CBC encryption
Date: Wed, 7 Sep 2011 21:55:36 +0300	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20110907185536.GA15276@redhat.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <4E603E37.40901@linux.vnet.ibm.com>

On Thu, Sep 01, 2011 at 10:23:51PM -0400, Stefan Berger wrote:
> >>An additional 'layer' for reading and writing the blobs to the underlying
> >>block storage is added. This layer encrypts the blobs for writing if a key is
> >>available. Similarly it decrypts the blobs after reading.

So a couple of further thoughts:
1. Raw storage should work too, and with e.g. NFS migration will be fine, right?
   So I'd say it's worth supporting.
2. File backed nvram is interesting outside tpm.
   For example,vpd and chassis number for pci, eeprom emulation for network cards.
   Using a file per device might be inconvenient though.
   So please think of a format and API that will allow sections
   for use by different devices.
3. Home-grown file formats give us enough trouble in migration.
   Could this use one of the variants of ASN.1?
   There are portable libraries to read/write that, even.

-- 
MST

  parent reply	other threads:[~2011-09-07 18:55 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 75+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2011-08-31 14:35 [Qemu-devel] [PATCH V8 00/14] Qemu Trusted Platform Module (TPM) integration Stefan Berger
2011-08-31 14:35 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH V8 01/14] Support for TPM command line options Stefan Berger
2011-09-01 17:14   ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2011-09-02  1:01     ` Stefan Berger
2011-09-04 16:29       ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2011-09-04 16:50       ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2011-09-01 18:14   ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2011-09-02  1:02     ` Stefan Berger
2011-08-31 14:35 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH V8 02/14] Add TPM (frontend) hardware interface (TPM TIS) to Qemu Stefan Berger
2011-09-09 19:28   ` Paul Moore
2011-08-31 14:35 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH V8 03/14] Add persistent state handling to TPM TIS frontend driver Stefan Berger
2011-09-01 17:20   ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2011-09-02  1:12     ` Stefan Berger
2011-09-09 21:13   ` Paul Moore
2011-09-11 16:45     ` Stefan Berger
2011-09-12 21:16       ` Paul Moore
2011-09-12 23:37         ` Stefan Berger
2011-09-13 12:13           ` Paul Moore
2011-08-31 14:35 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH V8 04/14] Add tpm_tis driver to build process Stefan Berger
2011-09-01 17:23   ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2011-09-02  1:16     ` Stefan Berger
2011-08-31 14:35 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH V8 05/14] Add a debug register Stefan Berger
2011-08-31 14:35 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH V8 06/14] Add a TPM backend skeleton implementation Stefan Berger
2011-08-31 14:35 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH V8 07/14] Implementation of the libtpms-based backend Stefan Berger
2011-09-01 17:27   ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2011-09-02  1:24     ` Stefan Berger
2011-09-04 16:27       ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2011-08-31 14:35 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH V8 08/14] Introduce file lock for the block layer Stefan Berger
2011-09-01 17:32   ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2011-09-02  1:53     ` Stefan Berger
2011-09-04 19:32       ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2011-09-06 23:55         ` Stefan Berger
2011-09-07 11:18           ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2011-09-07 13:06             ` Stefan Berger
2011-09-07 13:16               ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2011-09-07 13:56                 ` Stefan Berger
2011-09-07 14:10                   ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2011-09-07 14:25                     ` Stefan Berger
2011-09-07 14:35                       ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2011-09-07 15:06                         ` Stefan Berger
2011-09-07 15:16                           ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2011-09-07 16:08                             ` Stefan Berger
2011-09-07 18:49                               ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2011-09-08  0:31                                 ` Stefan Berger
2011-09-08 10:36                                   ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2011-08-31 14:36 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH V8 09/14] Add block storage support for libtpms based TPM backend Stefan Berger
2011-08-31 14:36 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH V8 10/14] Encrypt state blobs using AES CBC encryption Stefan Berger
2011-09-01 19:26   ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2011-09-02  2:23     ` Stefan Berger
2011-09-04 16:58       ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2011-09-07  0:32         ` Stefan Berger
2011-09-07 11:59           ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2011-09-07 18:55       ` Michael S. Tsirkin [this message]
2011-09-08  0:16         ` Stefan Berger
2011-09-08 10:32           ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2011-09-08 12:11             ` Stefan Berger
2011-09-08 13:16               ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2011-09-08 15:27                 ` Stefan Berger
2011-08-31 14:36 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH V8 11/14] Experimental support for block migrating TPMs state Stefan Berger
2011-08-31 14:36 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH V8 12/14] Support for taking measurements when kernel etc. are passed to Qemu Stefan Berger
2011-08-31 14:36 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH V8 13/14] Add a TPM backend null driver implementation Stefan Berger
2011-09-01 17:40   ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2011-09-02  2:41     ` Stefan Berger
2011-09-04 16:42       ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2011-08-31 14:36 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH V8 14/14] Allow to provide inital TPM state Stefan Berger
2011-09-01 18:10   ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2011-09-01 19:01     ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2011-09-02  3:00     ` Stefan Berger
2011-09-04 16:38       ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2011-09-07  2:45         ` Stefan Berger
2011-09-07 11:23           ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2011-09-07 13:51             ` Stefan Berger
2011-09-07 13:57               ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2011-09-01 18:12 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH V8 00/14] Qemu Trusted Platform Module (TPM) integration Michael S. Tsirkin
2011-09-02  3:02   ` Stefan Berger

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