From: "Edgar E. Iglesias" <edgar.iglesias@gmail.com>
To: Anthony Liguori <aliguori@us.ibm.com>
Cc: Peter Maydell <peter.maydell@linaro.org>,
Jan Kiszka <jan.kiszka@siemens.com>,
qemu-devel <qemu-devel@nongnu.org>,
Markus Armbruster <armbru@redhat.com>,
Gerd Hoffmann <kraxel@redhat.com>
Subject: Re: [Qemu-devel] [RFC] Plan for moving forward with QOM
Date: Wed, 14 Sep 2011 22:27:08 +0200 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20110914202708.GC17136@zapo> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <4E710D05.6030008@us.ibm.com>
On Wed, Sep 14, 2011 at 03:22:29PM -0500, Anthony Liguori wrote:
> On 09/14/2011 03:00 PM, Edgar E. Iglesias wrote:
> >On Wed, Sep 14, 2011 at 01:04:00PM -0500, Anthony Liguori wrote:
> >>Hi,
> >>
> >>I spent a couple hours today writing up some comparisons and an
> >>initial task list for converting qdev to QOM. The main location of
> >>this is the wiki[1] but I thought I would inline it here for easier
> >>commenting.
> >>
> >>I decided to do this because I wanted to avoid a massively long 00
> >>patch explaining the rationale for the first batch of changes that
> >>I'm going to send out.
> >>
> >>There is so much complexity in qdev and the device model in general
> >>that it's hard to come up with a concise document. I'd really
> >>appreciate suggestions for topics to write up more rationale as that
> >>would help me avoid writing a book on the topic :-)
> >
> >Thanks Anthony,
> >
> >I'd appreciate if you could elaborate more on the backlinks. Also,
> >tiny code examples would help. Maybe you've got a git repo with
> >more code to link to?
>
> Message-Id: <1311558293-5855-1-git-send-email-aliguori@us.ibm.com>
>
> Or
>
> http://repo.or.cz/w/qemu/aliguori.git/shortlog/refs/heads/qom
>
> >
> >Regarding the composition, a problem I face (which I mostly just
> >hack my way around) is that inter device connections may exist
> >at various layers at the same time. For example, a device that is
> >burried under a couple of busses/bridges may somehow be tighly
> >connected to another device at a very different location in
> >the bus hierarchy by means of another overlayed interconnect (e.g
> >data channels, timing generation, IRQs etc). Maybe you could
> >clarify a bit more on how QOM handles these topics.
>
> Links are meant to handle this. You can have something like:
>
> + PlatformDevice1
> + PlatformDevice2
> + PciBus
> |
> +- PciDevice1
> +- PciDevice2
> |
> + I2CBus
> |
> +- I2CDevice1
> |- pd2: link<PlatformDevice2>
>
> So you have I2CDevice that sites behind multiple levels of
> hierarchy, but has a direct relationship (via a link) to a platform
> device much higher in the hierarchy. This is an simple
> demonstration of how you can create a graph in QOM.
>
> qdev doesn't allow graphs in the object model which is the problem
> that you're having today. That's because its a tree with
> alternating levels. The top level is always a bus, the next level
> is always devices, the next level are always busses, etc.
>
> With QOM, there are only devices, and devices can link to 0 or more other devices.
Great, thanks for clarifying!
Maybe you can copy+paste this into your book :p
Cheers
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2011-09-14 20:27 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 88+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2011-09-14 18:04 [Qemu-devel] [RFC] Plan for moving forward with QOM Anthony Liguori
2011-09-14 18:49 ` Anthony Liguori
2011-09-14 19:30 ` Jan Kiszka
2011-09-14 19:42 ` Anthony Liguori
2011-09-14 21:15 ` Jan Kiszka
2011-09-14 22:11 ` Anthony Liguori
2011-09-15 13:43 ` Jan Kiszka
2011-09-15 14:11 ` Anthony Liguori
2011-09-15 16:38 ` Jan Kiszka
2011-09-15 18:01 ` Anthony Liguori
2011-09-16 10:12 ` Kevin Wolf
2011-09-16 13:00 ` Anthony Liguori
2011-09-14 20:00 ` Edgar E. Iglesias
2011-09-14 20:22 ` Anthony Liguori
2011-09-14 20:27 ` Edgar E. Iglesias [this message]
2011-09-14 20:37 ` Blue Swirl
2011-09-14 21:25 ` Anthony Liguori
2011-09-15 6:31 ` Gleb Natapov
2011-09-15 10:49 ` Stefan Hajnoczi
2011-09-15 13:08 ` Anthony Liguori
2011-09-15 13:17 ` Anthony Liguori
2011-09-15 14:23 ` Gleb Natapov
2011-09-16 14:46 ` John Williams
2011-09-16 16:10 ` Anthony Liguori
2011-09-17 1:11 ` Edgar E. Iglesias
2011-09-17 2:12 ` Anthony Liguori
2011-09-17 2:35 ` Edgar E. Iglesias
2011-09-15 13:57 ` Anthony Liguori
2011-09-15 14:14 ` Paolo Bonzini
2011-09-15 14:25 ` Gleb Natapov
2011-09-15 15:28 ` Anthony Liguori
2011-09-15 15:38 ` Gleb Natapov
2011-09-15 16:33 ` Anthony Liguori
2011-09-15 16:59 ` Gleb Natapov
2011-09-15 17:51 ` Anthony Liguori
2011-09-15 20:29 ` Gleb Natapov
2011-09-15 20:45 ` Peter Maydell
2011-09-15 21:15 ` Anthony Liguori
2011-09-16 16:33 ` Gleb Natapov
2011-09-16 17:47 ` Peter Maydell
2011-09-16 18:08 ` Anthony Liguori
2011-09-16 18:22 ` Gleb Natapov
2011-09-16 18:42 ` Anthony Liguori
2011-09-16 19:13 ` Gleb Natapov
2011-09-16 19:29 ` Anthony Liguori
2011-09-16 20:48 ` Gleb Natapov
2011-09-16 21:03 ` Anthony Liguori
2011-09-17 0:01 ` Edgar E. Iglesias
2011-09-16 18:18 ` Gleb Natapov
2011-09-15 20:50 ` Anthony Liguori
2011-09-16 16:47 ` Gleb Natapov
2011-09-17 0:48 ` Edgar E. Iglesias
2011-09-17 2:17 ` Anthony Liguori
2011-09-17 2:29 ` Anthony Liguori
2011-09-17 2:41 ` Edgar E. Iglesias
2011-09-15 6:47 ` Paolo Bonzini
2011-09-15 13:26 ` Anthony Liguori
2011-09-15 13:35 ` Paolo Bonzini
2011-09-15 13:54 ` Peter Maydell
2011-09-15 14:18 ` Anthony Liguori
2011-09-15 14:33 ` Paolo Bonzini
2011-09-15 14:48 ` Peter Maydell
2011-09-15 15:31 ` Anthony Liguori
2011-09-15 15:47 ` Paolo Bonzini
2011-09-15 20:23 ` Avi Kivity
2011-09-15 20:52 ` Anthony Liguori
2011-09-18 7:56 ` Avi Kivity
2011-09-18 14:00 ` Avi Kivity
2011-09-16 9:36 ` Gerd Hoffmann
2011-12-13 4:47 ` Paul Brook
2011-12-13 13:22 ` Anthony Liguori
2011-12-13 17:40 ` Paul Brook
2011-12-13 18:00 ` Anthony Liguori
2011-12-13 20:36 ` Paul Brook
2011-12-13 21:53 ` Anthony Liguori
2011-12-14 0:39 ` Paul Brook
2011-12-14 13:53 ` Anthony Liguori
2011-12-14 14:01 ` Avi Kivity
2011-12-14 14:11 ` Anthony Liguori
2011-12-14 14:35 ` Avi Kivity
2011-12-14 14:46 ` Anthony Liguori
2011-12-14 14:50 ` Avi Kivity
2011-12-15 18:59 ` Paul Brook
2011-12-15 19:12 ` Anthony Liguori
2011-12-15 21:28 ` Paul Brook
2011-12-16 2:08 ` Anthony Liguori
2011-12-16 5:11 ` Paul Brook
2011-12-14 9:11 ` Andreas Färber
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