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From: "Daniel P. Berrange" <berrange@redhat.com>
To: Stefan Berger <stefanb@linux.vnet.ibm.com>
Cc: Markus Armbruster <armbru@redhat.com>,
	Anthony Liguori <aliguori@us.ibm.com>,
	QEMU Developers <qemu-devel@nongnu.org>,
	"Michael S. Tsirkin" <mst@redhat.com>
Subject: Re: [Qemu-devel] Design of the blobstore
Date: Thu, 15 Sep 2011 14:05:14 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20110915130514.GQ29309@redhat.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <4E70DEE8.8090908@linux.vnet.ibm.com>

On Wed, Sep 14, 2011 at 01:05:44PM -0400, Stefan Berger wrote:
> Hello!
> 
>   Over the last few days primarily Michael Tsirkin and I have
> discussed the design of the 'blobstore' via IRC (#virtualization).
> The intention of the blobstore is to provide storage to persist
> blobs that devices create. Along with these blobs possibly some
> metadata should be storable in this blobstore.
> 
>   An initial client for the blobstore would be the TPM emulation.
> The TPM's persistent state needs to be stored once it changes so it
> can be restored at any point in time later on, i.e., after a cold
> reboot of the VM. In effect the blobstore simulates the NVRAM of a
> device where it would typically store such persistent data onto.

While I can see the appeal of a general 'blobstore' for NVRAM
tunables related to device, wrt the TPM emulation, should we
be considering use of something like the PKCS#11 standard for
storing/retrieving crypto data for the TPM ?

  https://secure.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/wiki/PKCS11

This is a industry standard for interfacing to cryptographic
storage mechanisms, widely supported by all SSL libraries & more
or less all programming languages. IIUC it lets the application
avoid hardcoding a specification storage backend impl, so it can
be made to work with anything from local files, to smartcards,
to HSMs, to remote network services.

Regards,
Daniel
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  parent reply	other threads:[~2011-09-15 13:05 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 27+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2011-09-14 17:05 [Qemu-devel] Design of the blobstore Stefan Berger
2011-09-14 17:40 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2011-09-14 17:49   ` Stefan Berger
2011-09-14 17:56     ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2011-09-14 21:12       ` Stefan Berger
2011-09-15  6:57         ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2011-09-15 10:22           ` Stefan Berger
2011-09-15 10:51             ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2011-09-15 10:55               ` Stefan Berger
2011-09-15  5:47 ` Gleb Natapov
2011-09-15 10:18   ` Stefan Berger
2011-09-15 10:20     ` Gleb Natapov
2011-09-15 11:17 ` Stefan Hajnoczi
2011-09-15 11:35   ` Daniel P. Berrange
2011-09-15 11:40   ` Kevin Wolf
2011-09-15 11:58     ` Stefan Hajnoczi
2011-09-15 12:31       ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2011-09-16  8:46       ` Kevin Wolf
2011-09-15 14:19     ` Stefan Berger
2011-09-16  8:12       ` Kevin Wolf
2011-09-15 12:34   ` [Qemu-devel] Design of the blobstore [API of the NVRAM] Stefan Berger
2011-09-16 10:35     ` Stefan Hajnoczi
2011-09-16 11:36       ` Stefan Berger
2011-09-15 13:05 ` Daniel P. Berrange [this message]
2011-09-15 13:13   ` [Qemu-devel] Design of the blobstore Stefan Berger
2011-09-15 13:27     ` Daniel P. Berrange
2011-09-15 14:00       ` Stefan Berger

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