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From: "Michael S. Tsirkin" <mst@redhat.com>
To: Avi Kivity <avi@redhat.com>
Cc: aliguori@us.ibm.com, joerg.roedel@amd.com, qemu-devel@nongnu.org,
	agraf@suse.de, kraxel@redhat.com, eduard.munteanu@linux360.ro,
	David Gibson <david@gibson.dropbear.id.au>,
	rth@twiddle.net
Subject: Re: [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 1/9] Add stub functions for PCI device models to do PCI DMA
Date: Sun, 2 Oct 2011 13:17:00 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20111002111700.GF30747@redhat.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <4E8843DB.1020404@redhat.com>

On Sun, Oct 02, 2011 at 12:58:35PM +0200, Avi Kivity wrote:
> On 10/02/2011 12:52 PM, Michael S. Tsirkin wrote:
> >On Sun, Oct 02, 2011 at 12:29:08PM +0200, Avi Kivity wrote:
> >>  On 10/02/2011 12:25 PM, Michael S. Tsirkin wrote:
> >>  >On Mon, Sep 05, 2011 at 02:34:56PM +1000, David Gibson wrote:
> >>  >>   This patch adds functions to pci.[ch] to perform PCI DMA operations.  At
> >>  >>   present, these are just stubs which perform directly cpu physical memory
> >>  >>   accesses.
> >>  >>
> >>  >>   Using these stubs, however, distinguishes PCI device DMA transactions from
> >>  >>   other accesses to physical memory, which will allow PCI IOMMU support to
> >>  >>   be added in one place, rather than updating every PCI driver at that time.
> >>  >>
> >>  >>   That is, it allows us to update individual PCI drivers to support an IOMMU
> >>  >>   without having yet determined the details of how the IOMMU emulation will
> >>  >>   operate.  This will let us remove the most bitrot-sensitive part of an
> >>  >>   IOMMU patch in advance.
> >>  >>
> >>  >>   Signed-off-by: David Gibson<david@gibson.dropbear.id.au>
> >>  >
> >>  >So something I just thought about:
> >>  >
> >>  >all wrappers now go through cpu_physical_memory_rw.
> >>  >This is a problem as e.g. virtio assumes that
> >>  >accesses such as stw are atomic. cpu_physical_memory_rw
> >>  >is a memcpy which makes no such guarantees.
> >>  >
> >>
> >>  Let's change cpu_physical_memory_rw() to provide that guarantee for
> >>  aligned two and four byte accesses.  Having separate paths just for
> >>  that is not maintainable.
> >
> >Well, we also have stX_phys convert to target native endian-ness
> >(nop for KVM but not necessarily for qemu).
> >
> >So if we do what you suggest, this patch will become more correct, but
> >it would still need to duplicate the endian-ness work.
> >
> >For that reason, I think calling stX_phys and friends from pci
> >makes more sense - we get more simple inline wrappers
> >but that code duplication worries me much less than tricky
> >endian-ness hidden within a macro.
> >
> 
> Good point.  Though this is really a virtio specific issue since
> other devices have explicit endianness (not guest dependent).

Hmm, not entirely virtio specific, some devices use stX macros to do the
conversion.  E.g. stw_be_phys and stl_le_phys are used in several
places.

> I think endian conversion is best made explicit in virtio (like
> e1000 does explicit conversions to little endian).

That's certainly possible. Though it's hard to see why duplicating e.g.

static void e100_stw_le_phys(target_phys_addr_t addr, uint16_t val)
{
    val = cpu_to_le16(val);
    cpu_physical_memory_write(addr, &val, sizeof(val));
}

is a better idea than a central utility that does this.
Maybe the address is not guaranteed to be aligned in the e100
case.


> -- 
> error compiling committee.c: too many arguments to function

  reply	other threads:[~2011-10-02 11:16 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 42+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2011-09-05  4:34 [Qemu-devel] [0/9] Preliminary work for IOMMU emulation support; the easy bits (v2) David Gibson
2011-09-05  4:34 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 1/9] Add stub functions for PCI device models to do PCI DMA David Gibson
2011-10-02 10:25   ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2011-10-02 10:29     ` Avi Kivity
2011-10-02 10:52       ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2011-10-02 10:58         ` Avi Kivity
2011-10-02 11:17           ` Michael S. Tsirkin [this message]
2011-10-02 11:28             ` Alexander Graf
2011-10-02 11:43               ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2011-10-02 12:01             ` Avi Kivity
2011-10-02 12:14               ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2011-10-02 12:26                 ` Avi Kivity
2011-10-03 13:17                 ` Anthony Liguori
2011-10-12  3:09                   ` David Gibson
2011-10-12  9:12                     ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2011-10-14  2:14                   ` David Gibson
2011-10-16 12:50                     ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2011-10-16 13:15                     ` Avi Kivity
2011-10-18  1:46                       ` David Gibson
2011-10-19  0:31                         ` Rusty Russell
2011-10-19  1:22                         ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2011-10-19  9:10                         ` Avi Kivity
2011-10-20  2:58                           ` David Gibson
2011-10-12  3:07                 ` David Gibson
2011-10-12  7:22                   ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2011-10-12 15:43                     ` David Gibson
2011-10-12 15:45                       ` David Gibson
2011-10-12  3:11         ` David Gibson
2011-10-12  8:44           ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2011-10-12  9:08             ` Gerd Hoffmann
2011-10-03 13:10     ` Anthony Liguori
2011-09-05  4:34 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 2/9] rtl8139: Use PCI DMA stub functions David Gibson
2011-09-05  4:34 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 3/9] eepro100: " David Gibson
2011-10-02 11:45   ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2011-10-14  2:15     ` David Gibson
2011-09-05  4:34 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 4/9] ac97: " David Gibson
2011-09-05  4:35 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 5/9] es1370: " David Gibson
2011-09-05  4:35 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 6/9] e1000: " David Gibson
2011-09-05  4:35 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 7/9] lsi53c895a: " David Gibson
2011-09-05  4:35 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 8/9] pcnet-pci: " David Gibson
2011-09-05  4:35 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 9/9] intel-hda: " David Gibson
2011-09-16  6:58 ` [Qemu-devel] [0/9] Preliminary work for IOMMU emulation support; the easy bits (v2) David Gibson

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