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From: "Michael S. Tsirkin" <mst@redhat.com>
To: Avi Kivity <avi@redhat.com>,
	qemu-devel@nongnu.org, joerg.roedel@amd.com, aliguori@us.ibm.com,
	rth@twiddle.net, agraf@suse.de, eduard.munteanu@linux360.ro,
	kraxel@redhat.com
Subject: Re: [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 1/9] Add stub functions for PCI device models to do PCI DMA
Date: Wed, 12 Oct 2011 10:44:38 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20111012084437.GC7514@redhat.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20111012031137.GQ4849@truffala.fritz.box>

On Wed, Oct 12, 2011 at 02:11:37PM +1100, David Gibson wrote:
> On Sun, Oct 02, 2011 at 12:52:39PM +0200, Michael S. Tsirkin wrote:
> > On Sun, Oct 02, 2011 at 12:29:08PM +0200, Avi Kivity wrote:
> > > On 10/02/2011 12:25 PM, Michael S. Tsirkin wrote:
> > > >On Mon, Sep 05, 2011 at 02:34:56PM +1000, David Gibson wrote:
> > > >>  This patch adds functions to pci.[ch] to perform PCI DMA operations.  At
> > > >>  present, these are just stubs which perform directly cpu physical memory
> > > >>  accesses.
> > > >>
> > > >>  Using these stubs, however, distinguishes PCI device DMA transactions from
> > > >>  other accesses to physical memory, which will allow PCI IOMMU support to
> > > >>  be added in one place, rather than updating every PCI driver at that time.
> > > >>
> > > >>  That is, it allows us to update individual PCI drivers to support an IOMMU
> > > >>  without having yet determined the details of how the IOMMU emulation will
> > > >>  operate.  This will let us remove the most bitrot-sensitive part of an
> > > >>  IOMMU patch in advance.
> > > >>
> > > >>  Signed-off-by: David Gibson<david@gibson.dropbear.id.au>
> > > >
> > > >So something I just thought about:
> > > >
> > > >all wrappers now go through cpu_physical_memory_rw.
> > > >This is a problem as e.g. virtio assumes that
> > > >accesses such as stw are atomic. cpu_physical_memory_rw
> > > >is a memcpy which makes no such guarantees.
> > > >
> > > 
> > > Let's change cpu_physical_memory_rw() to provide that guarantee for
> > > aligned two and four byte accesses.  Having separate paths just for
> > > that is not maintainable.
> > 
> > Well, we also have stX_phys convert to target native endian-ness
> > (nop for KVM but not necessarily for qemu).
> 
> Yes.. as do the stX_pci_dma() helpers.  They assume LE, rather than
> having two variants, because PCI is an LE spec, and all normal PCI
> devices work in LE.

IMO, not really. PCI devices do DMA any way they like.  LE is
probably more common because both ARM and x86 processors are LE.

>  If we need to model some perverse BE PCI device,
> it can reswap itself.

An explicit API for this would be cleaner.

-- 
MST

  reply	other threads:[~2011-10-12  8:43 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 42+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2011-09-05  4:34 [Qemu-devel] [0/9] Preliminary work for IOMMU emulation support; the easy bits (v2) David Gibson
2011-09-05  4:34 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 1/9] Add stub functions for PCI device models to do PCI DMA David Gibson
2011-10-02 10:25   ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2011-10-02 10:29     ` Avi Kivity
2011-10-02 10:52       ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2011-10-02 10:58         ` Avi Kivity
2011-10-02 11:17           ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2011-10-02 11:28             ` Alexander Graf
2011-10-02 11:43               ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2011-10-02 12:01             ` Avi Kivity
2011-10-02 12:14               ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2011-10-02 12:26                 ` Avi Kivity
2011-10-03 13:17                 ` Anthony Liguori
2011-10-12  3:09                   ` David Gibson
2011-10-12  9:12                     ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2011-10-14  2:14                   ` David Gibson
2011-10-16 12:50                     ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2011-10-16 13:15                     ` Avi Kivity
2011-10-18  1:46                       ` David Gibson
2011-10-19  0:31                         ` Rusty Russell
2011-10-19  1:22                         ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2011-10-19  9:10                         ` Avi Kivity
2011-10-20  2:58                           ` David Gibson
2011-10-12  3:07                 ` David Gibson
2011-10-12  7:22                   ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2011-10-12 15:43                     ` David Gibson
2011-10-12 15:45                       ` David Gibson
2011-10-12  3:11         ` David Gibson
2011-10-12  8:44           ` Michael S. Tsirkin [this message]
2011-10-12  9:08             ` Gerd Hoffmann
2011-10-03 13:10     ` Anthony Liguori
2011-09-05  4:34 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 2/9] rtl8139: Use PCI DMA stub functions David Gibson
2011-09-05  4:34 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 3/9] eepro100: " David Gibson
2011-10-02 11:45   ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2011-10-14  2:15     ` David Gibson
2011-09-05  4:34 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 4/9] ac97: " David Gibson
2011-09-05  4:35 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 5/9] es1370: " David Gibson
2011-09-05  4:35 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 6/9] e1000: " David Gibson
2011-09-05  4:35 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 7/9] lsi53c895a: " David Gibson
2011-09-05  4:35 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 8/9] pcnet-pci: " David Gibson
2011-09-05  4:35 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 9/9] intel-hda: " David Gibson
2011-09-16  6:58 ` [Qemu-devel] [0/9] Preliminary work for IOMMU emulation support; the easy bits (v2) David Gibson

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