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From: "Michael S. Tsirkin" <mst@redhat.com>
To: Jan Kiszka <jan.kiszka@web.de>
Cc: Alex Williamson <alex.williamson@redhat.com>,
	Marcelo Tosatti <mtosatti@redhat.com>,
	Avi Kivity <avi@redhat.com>,
	"kvm@vger.kernel.org" <kvm@vger.kernel.org>,
	"qemu-devel@nongnu.org" <qemu-devel@nongnu.org>
Subject: Re: [Qemu-devel] [RFC][PATCH 23/45] qemu-kvm: Rework MSI-X mask notifier to generic MSI config notifiers
Date: Tue, 18 Oct 2011 15:46:37 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20111018134636.GT28776@redhat.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <4E9C7D4A.8010107@web.de>

On Mon, Oct 17, 2011 at 09:08:58PM +0200, Jan Kiszka wrote:
> On 2011-10-17 14:39, Michael S. Tsirkin wrote:
> > On Mon, Oct 17, 2011 at 01:45:04PM +0200, Jan Kiszka wrote:
> >> On 2011-10-17 13:40, Michael S. Tsirkin wrote:
> >>> On Mon, Oct 17, 2011 at 11:27:57AM +0200, Jan Kiszka wrote:
> >>>> MSI config notifiers are supposed to be triggered on every relevant
> >>>> configuration change of MSI vectors or if MSI is enabled/disabled.
> >>>>
> >>>> Two notifiers are established, one for vector changes and one for general
> >>>> enabling. The former notifier additionally passes the currently active
> >>>> MSI message.
> >>>> This will allow to update potential in-kernel IRQ routes on
> >>>> changes. The latter notifier is optional and will only be used by a
> >>>> subset of clients.
> >>>>
> >>>> These notifiers are currently only available for MSI-X but will be
> >>>> extended to legacy MSI as well.
> >>>>
> >>>> Signed-off-by: Jan Kiszka <jan.kiszka@siemens.com>
> >>>
> >>> Passing message, always, does not seem to make sense: message is only
> >>> valid if it is unmasked.
> >>
> >> If we go from unmasked to masked, the consumer could just ignore the
> >> message.
> > 
> > Why don't we let the consumer get the message if it needs it?
> 
> Because most consumer will need and because I want to keep the API simple.

The API seems to get more complex, as you are passing
in fields which are only valid sometimes.

> > 
> >>> Further, IIRC the spec requires any changes to be done while
> >>> message is masked. So mask notifier makes more sense to me:
> >>> it does the same thing using one notifier that you do
> >>> using two notifiers.
> >>
> >> That's in fact a possible optimization (only invoke the callback on mask
> >> transitions).
> > 
> > Further, it is one that is already implemented.
> > So I would prefer not to add work by removing it :)
> 
> Generalization to cover MSI requires some changes. Unneeded behavioral
> changes back and forth should and will of course be avoided. I will
> rework this.
> 
> > 
> >> Not sure if that applies to MSI as well, probably not.
> > 
> > Probably not. However, if per vector masking is
> > supported, and while vector is masked, the address/
> > data values might not make any sense.
> > 
> > So I think even msi users needs to know about masked state.
> 
> Yes, and they get this information via the config notifier.
> 
> > 
> >> To
> >> have common types, I would prefer to stay with vector config notifiers
> >> as name then.
> >>
> >> Jan
> > 
> > So we pass in nonsense values and ask all users to know about MSIX rules.
> > Ugh.
> > 
> > I do realize msi might change the vector without masking.
> > We can either artificially call mask before value change
> > and unmask after, or use 3 notifiers: mask,unmask,config.
> > Add a comment that config is invoked when configuration
> > for an unmasked vector is changed, and that
> > it can only happen for msi, not msix.
> 
> I see no need in complicating the API like this. MSI-X still needs the
> config information on unmask, so let's just consistently pass it via the
> unified config notifier instead of forcing the consumers to create yet
> two more handlers. I really do not see the benefit for the consumer.
> 
> Jan
> 

The benefit is a clearer API, where all parameters you get are valid,
so you do not need to go read the spec to see what is OK to use.
Generally, encoding events in flags is more error
prone than using different notifiers for different events.

E.g. _unmask and _mask make
it obvious that they are called on mask and on unmask
respectively.
OTOH _config_change(bool mask) is unclear: is 'mask' the new
state or the old state?

It might be just my taste, but I usually prefer multiple
functions doing one thing each rather than a single
function doing multiple things. It shouldn't be too hard ...

-- 
MST

  reply	other threads:[~2011-10-18 13:45 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 144+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2011-10-17  9:27 [Qemu-devel] [RFC][PATCH 00/45] qemu-kvm: MSI layer rework for in-kernel irqchip support Jan Kiszka
2011-10-17  9:27 ` [Qemu-devel] [RFC][PATCH 01/45] msi: Guard msi/msix_write_config with msi_present Jan Kiszka
2011-10-17  9:27 ` [Qemu-devel] [RFC][PATCH 02/45] msi: Guard msi_reset " Jan Kiszka
2011-10-17  9:27 ` [Qemu-devel] [RFC][PATCH 03/45] msi: Use msi/msix_present more consistently Jan Kiszka
2011-10-17  9:27 ` [Qemu-devel] [RFC][PATCH 04/45] msi: Invoke msi/msix_reset from PCI core Jan Kiszka
2011-10-17  9:27 ` [Qemu-devel] [RFC][PATCH 05/45] msi: Invoke msi/msix_write_config " Jan Kiszka
2011-10-17  9:27 ` [Qemu-devel] [RFC][PATCH 06/45] msix: Prevent bogus mask updates on MMIO accesses Jan Kiszka
2011-10-17 11:10   ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2011-10-17 11:23     ` Jan Kiszka
2011-10-17 11:57       ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2011-10-17 12:07         ` Jan Kiszka
2011-10-17 12:50           ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2011-10-17 19:11             ` Jan Kiszka
2011-10-17 19:43               ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2011-10-17  9:27 ` [Qemu-devel] [RFC][PATCH 07/45] msi: Generalize msix_supported to msi_supported Jan Kiszka
2011-10-17  9:27 ` [Qemu-devel] [RFC][PATCH 08/45] Introduce MSIMessage structure Jan Kiszka
2011-10-17 11:46   ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2011-10-17 11:51     ` Jan Kiszka
2011-10-17 12:04       ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2011-10-17 12:09         ` Jan Kiszka
2011-10-17 13:01           ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2011-10-17 19:14             ` Jan Kiszka
2011-10-17  9:27 ` [Qemu-devel] [RFC][PATCH 09/45] msi: Factor out msi_message_from_vector Jan Kiszka
2011-10-17  9:27 ` [Qemu-devel] [RFC][PATCH 10/45] msix: Factor out msix_message_from_vector Jan Kiszka
2011-10-17  9:27 ` [Qemu-devel] [RFC][PATCH 11/45] msi: Factor out delivery hook Jan Kiszka
2011-10-17 10:56   ` Avi Kivity
2011-10-17 11:15     ` Jan Kiszka
2011-10-17 11:22       ` Avi Kivity
2011-10-17 11:29         ` Jan Kiszka
2011-10-17 12:14           ` Avi Kivity
2011-10-17 18:59             ` Jan Kiszka
2011-10-17 13:41       ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2011-10-17 13:41         ` Avi Kivity
2011-10-17 13:48           ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2011-10-17 19:18             ` Jan Kiszka
2011-10-17 13:43   ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2011-10-17 19:15     ` Jan Kiszka
2011-10-18 12:05       ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2011-10-18 12:23         ` Jan Kiszka
2011-10-18 12:38           ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2011-10-18 12:41             ` Jan Kiszka
2011-10-18 12:44             ` malc
2011-10-18 12:49               ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2011-10-17  9:27 ` [Qemu-devel] [RFC][PATCH 12/45] msi: Introduce MSIRoutingCache Jan Kiszka
2011-10-17 11:06   ` Avi Kivity
2011-10-17 11:19     ` Jan Kiszka
2011-10-17 11:25       ` Avi Kivity
2011-10-17 11:31         ` Jan Kiszka
2011-10-17 12:17           ` Avi Kivity
2011-10-17 15:37       ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2011-10-17 19:19         ` Jan Kiszka
2011-10-18 12:17           ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2011-10-18 12:26             ` Jan Kiszka
2011-10-17 15:43   ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2011-10-17 19:23     ` Jan Kiszka
2011-10-17  9:27 ` [Qemu-devel] [RFC][PATCH 13/45] hpet: Use msi_deliver Jan Kiszka
2011-10-17  9:27 ` [Qemu-devel] [RFC][PATCH 14/45] qemu-kvm: Drop useless kvm_clear_gsi_routes Jan Kiszka
2011-10-17  9:27 ` [Qemu-devel] [RFC][PATCH 15/45] qemu-kvm: Drop unused kvm_del_irq_route Jan Kiszka
2011-10-17  9:27 ` [Qemu-devel] [RFC][PATCH 16/45] qemu-kvm: Use MSIMessage and MSIRoutingCache Jan Kiszka
2011-10-17  9:27 ` [Qemu-devel] [RFC][PATCH 17/45] qemu-kvm: Track MSIRoutingCache in KVM routing table Jan Kiszka
2011-10-17 11:13   ` Avi Kivity
2011-10-17 11:25     ` Jan Kiszka
2011-10-17 12:15       ` Avi Kivity
2011-10-17  9:27 ` [Qemu-devel] [RFC][PATCH 18/45] qemu-kvm: Hook into MSI delivery at APIC level Jan Kiszka
2011-10-17  9:27 ` [Qemu-devel] [RFC][PATCH 19/45] qemu-kvm: Factor out kvm_msi_irqfd_set Jan Kiszka
2011-10-17  9:27 ` [Qemu-devel] [RFC][PATCH 20/45] qemu-kvm: msix: Only invoke msix_handle_mask_update on changes Jan Kiszka
2011-10-17  9:27 ` [Qemu-devel] [RFC][PATCH 21/45] qemu-kvm: msix: Don't fire notifier spuriously on set/unset Jan Kiszka
2011-10-17  9:27 ` [Qemu-devel] [RFC][PATCH 22/45] qemu-kvm: msix: Fire mask notifier on global mask changes Jan Kiszka
2011-10-17 12:16   ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2011-10-17 19:00     ` Jan Kiszka
2011-10-18 12:40       ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2011-10-18 12:45         ` Jan Kiszka
2011-10-18 12:57           ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2011-10-17  9:27 ` [Qemu-devel] [RFC][PATCH 23/45] qemu-kvm: Rework MSI-X mask notifier to generic MSI config notifiers Jan Kiszka
2011-10-17 11:40   ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2011-10-17 11:45     ` Jan Kiszka
2011-10-17 12:39       ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2011-10-17 19:08         ` Jan Kiszka
2011-10-18 13:46           ` Michael S. Tsirkin [this message]
2011-10-18 13:49             ` Jan Kiszka
2011-10-17  9:27 ` [Qemu-devel] [RFC][PATCH 24/45] qemu-kvm: msix: Don't handle mask updated while disabled Jan Kiszka
2011-10-17  9:27 ` [Qemu-devel] [RFC][PATCH 25/45] qemu-kvm: Update MSI cache on kvm_msi_irqfd_set Jan Kiszka
2011-10-17  9:28 ` [Qemu-devel] [RFC][PATCH 26/45] qemu-kvm: Use g_realloc for irq_routes extension Jan Kiszka
2011-10-17  9:28 ` [Qemu-devel] [RFC][PATCH 27/45] qemu-kvm: Lazily update MSI caches Jan Kiszka
2011-10-17  9:28 ` [Qemu-devel] [RFC][PATCH 28/45] qemu-kvm: msix: Drop tracking of used vectors Jan Kiszka
2011-10-17 15:48   ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2011-10-17 19:28     ` Jan Kiszka
2011-10-18 11:58       ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2011-10-18 12:08         ` Jan Kiszka
2011-10-18 12:33           ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2011-10-18 12:38             ` Jan Kiszka
2011-10-18 12:48               ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2011-10-18 13:00                 ` Jan Kiszka
2011-10-18 13:37                   ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2011-10-18 13:46                     ` Jan Kiszka
2011-10-18 14:01                       ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2011-10-18 14:08                         ` Jan Kiszka
2011-10-18 15:08                           ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2011-10-18 15:22                             ` Jan Kiszka
2011-10-18 15:55                               ` Jan Kiszka
2011-10-18 17:06                                 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2011-10-18 18:24                                   ` Jan Kiszka
2011-10-18 18:40                                     ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2011-10-18 19:37                                       ` Jan Kiszka
2011-10-18 21:40                                         ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2011-10-18 22:13                                           ` Jan Kiszka
2011-10-19  0:56                                             ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2011-10-19  6:41                                               ` Jan Kiszka
2011-10-19  9:03                                                 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2011-10-19 11:17                                                   ` Jan Kiszka
2011-10-20 22:02                                                     ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2011-10-21  7:09                                                       ` Jan Kiszka
2011-10-21  7:54                                                         ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2011-10-21  9:27                                                           ` Jan Kiszka
2011-10-21 10:57                                                             ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2011-10-18 18:26                                   ` Jan Kiszka
2011-10-18 15:56                               ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2011-10-18 15:58                                 ` Jan Kiszka
2011-10-17  9:28 ` [Qemu-devel] [RFC][PATCH 29/45] pci-assign: Drop kvm_assigned_irq::host_irq initialization Jan Kiszka
2011-10-17  9:28 ` [Qemu-devel] [RFC][PATCH 30/45] pci-assign: Rename assign_irq to assign_intx Jan Kiszka
2011-10-17  9:28 ` [Qemu-devel] [RFC][PATCH 31/45] qemu-kvm: Refactor kvm_deassign_irq to kvm_device_irq_deassign Jan Kiszka
2011-10-17  9:28 ` [Qemu-devel] [RFC][PATCH 32/45] pci-assign: Factor out deassign_irq Jan Kiszka
2011-10-17  9:28 ` [Qemu-devel] [RFC][PATCH 33/45] qemu-kvm: Factor out kvm_device_intx_assign Jan Kiszka
2011-10-17  9:28 ` [Qemu-devel] [RFC][PATCH 34/45] qemu-kvm: Factor out kvm_device_msi_assign Jan Kiszka
2011-10-17  9:28 ` [Qemu-devel] [RFC][PATCH 35/45] pci-assign: Polish assigned_dev_update_msix_mmio Jan Kiszka
2011-10-17  9:28 ` [Qemu-devel] [RFC][PATCH 36/45] qemu-kvm: Factor out kvm_device_msix_* services Jan Kiszka
2011-10-17  9:28 ` [Qemu-devel] [RFC][PATCH 37/45] qemu-kvm: Clean up irqrouting API Jan Kiszka
2011-10-17  9:28 ` [Qemu-devel] [RFC][PATCH 38/45] msi: Implement config notifiers for legacy MSI Jan Kiszka
2011-10-17  9:28 ` [Qemu-devel] [RFC][PATCH 39/45] pci-assign: Use generic MSI support Jan Kiszka
2011-10-17  9:28 ` [Qemu-devel] [RFC][PATCH 40/45] qemu-kvm: msix: Drop check for preexisting cap from msix_add_config Jan Kiszka
2011-10-17  9:28 ` [Qemu-devel] [RFC][PATCH 41/45] msix: Drop unused msix_bar_size Jan Kiszka
2011-10-17  9:28 ` [Qemu-devel] [RFC][PATCH 42/45] msix: Introduce msix_init_simple Jan Kiszka
2011-10-17 11:22   ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2011-10-17 11:27     ` Jan Kiszka
2011-10-17 14:28       ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2011-10-17 19:21         ` Jan Kiszka
2011-10-18 10:52           ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2011-10-18 11:02             ` Jan Kiszka
2011-10-17  9:28 ` [Qemu-devel] [RFC][PATCH 43/45] msix: Allow to customize capability on init Jan Kiszka
2011-10-17  9:28 ` [Qemu-devel] [RFC][PATCH 44/45] pci-assign: Use generic MSI-X support Jan Kiszka
2011-10-17  9:28 ` [Qemu-devel] [RFC][PATCH 45/45] pci-assign: Fix coding style issues Jan Kiszka
2011-10-17 12:18 ` [Qemu-devel] [RFC][PATCH 00/45] qemu-kvm: MSI layer rework for in-kernel irqchip support Avi Kivity
2011-10-17 15:57 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2011-10-17 19:35   ` Jan Kiszka

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