From: Ted Ts'o <tytso@mit.edu>
To: Pekka Enberg <penberg@kernel.org>
Cc: "kvm@vger.kernel.org list" <kvm@vger.kernel.org>,
"qemu-devel Developers" <qemu-devel@nongnu.org>,
"Alexander Graf" <agraf@suse.de>,
"linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org List"
<linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
"Blue Swirl" <blauwirbel@gmail.com>,
"Pekka Enberg" <penberg@cs.helsinki.fi>,
"Avi Kivity" <avi@redhat.com>,
"Américo Wang" <xiyou.wangcong@gmail.com>,
"Ingo Molnar" <mingo@elte.hu>,
"Linus Torvalds" <torvalds@linux-foundation.org>,
"Gerd Hoffmann" <kraxel@redhat.com>
Subject: Re: [Qemu-devel] [PATCH] KVM: Add wrapper script around QEMU to test kernels
Date: Mon, 7 Nov 2011 07:47:57 -0500 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20111107124757.GC24685@thunk.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CAOJsxLGuRtWHbOugqHoxCNDmCrtiLFh7xMo8BVGNprG3GoanOQ@mail.gmail.com>
On Mon, Nov 07, 2011 at 02:42:57PM +0200, Pekka Enberg wrote:
> On Mon, Nov 7, 2011 at 2:29 PM, Ted Ts'o <tytso@mit.edu> wrote:
> > Because it's a stupid, idiotic thing to do.
>
> The discussion is turning into whether or not linux/tools makes sense
> or not. I wish you guys would have had it before perf was merged to
> the tree.
Perf was IMHO an overreaction caused by the fact that systemtap and
oprofile people packaged and released the sources in a way that kernel
developers didn't like.
I don't think perf should be used as a precendent that now argues that
any new kernel utility should be moved into the kernel sources. Does
it make sense to move all of mount, fsck, login, etc., into the kernel
sources? There are far more kernel tools outside of the kernel
sources than inside the kernel sources.
- Ted
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2011-11-07 12:48 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 178+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2011-11-06 1:35 [Qemu-devel] [PATCH] KVM: Add wrapper script around QEMU to test kernels Alexander Graf
2011-11-06 1:14 ` Andreas Färber
2011-11-06 10:04 ` Pekka Enberg
2011-11-06 10:07 ` Avi Kivity
2011-11-06 10:12 ` Pekka Enberg
2011-11-06 10:23 ` Avi Kivity
2011-11-06 11:08 ` Pekka Enberg
2011-11-06 11:50 ` Avi Kivity
2011-11-06 12:14 ` Pekka Enberg
2011-11-06 12:27 ` Avi Kivity
2011-11-06 12:32 ` Pekka Enberg
2011-11-06 12:43 ` Avi Kivity
2011-11-06 13:06 ` Pekka Enberg
2011-11-06 15:56 ` Avi Kivity
2011-11-06 16:35 ` Pekka Enberg
2011-11-06 16:50 ` Avi Kivity
2011-11-06 17:08 ` Anthony Liguori
2011-11-06 18:09 ` Pekka Enberg
2011-11-07 1:38 ` Anthony Liguori
2011-11-07 6:45 ` Pekka Enberg
2011-11-06 18:31 ` Ted Ts'o
2011-11-06 18:54 ` Pekka Enberg
2011-11-06 18:58 ` Pekka Enberg
2011-11-06 23:19 ` Ted Ts'o
2011-11-07 6:42 ` Pekka Enberg
2011-11-07 17:03 ` Vince Weaver
2011-11-07 17:59 ` Ingo Molnar
2011-11-07 20:03 ` Frank Ch. Eigler
2011-11-07 20:09 ` Pekka Enberg
2011-11-07 20:35 ` Ted Ts'o
2011-11-08 10:22 ` [Qemu-devel] [F.A.Q.] perf ABI backwards and forwards compatibility Ingo Molnar
2011-11-08 10:32 ` Peter Zijlstra
2011-11-08 11:34 ` Ingo Molnar
2011-11-08 10:41 ` Theodore Tso
2011-11-08 11:20 ` Pekka Enberg
2011-11-08 11:25 ` Theodore Tso
2011-11-08 11:29 ` Pekka Enberg
2011-11-08 11:31 ` Frank Ch. Eigler
2011-11-08 11:39 ` Pekka Enberg
2011-11-08 12:15 ` Ingo Molnar
2011-11-08 12:20 ` Peter Zijlstra
2011-11-08 12:59 ` Ingo Molnar
2011-11-09 10:05 ` Peter Zijlstra
2011-11-08 5:29 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH] KVM: Add wrapper script around QEMU to test kernels Vince Weaver
2011-11-08 12:07 ` Ingo Molnar
2011-11-08 13:08 ` Arnaldo Carvalho de Melo
2011-11-09 6:04 ` Vince Weaver
2011-11-07 19:53 ` Pekka Enberg
2011-11-07 20:32 ` Ted Ts'o
2011-11-07 21:36 ` Pekka Enberg
2011-11-07 22:19 ` Anthony Liguori
2011-11-07 23:42 ` Theodore Tso
2011-11-08 9:32 ` [Qemu-devel] [F.A.Q.] the advantages of a shared tool/kernel Git repository, tools/perf/ and tools/kvm/ Ingo Molnar
2011-11-08 10:21 ` Theodore Tso
2011-11-08 12:55 ` Ingo Molnar
2011-11-08 16:33 ` Ted Ts'o
2011-11-08 17:14 ` Anca Emanuel
2011-11-08 19:24 ` Ted Ts'o
2011-11-09 8:28 ` Ingo Molnar
2011-11-08 21:15 ` John Kacur
2011-11-09 8:38 ` Ingo Molnar
2011-11-09 8:23 ` Ingo Molnar
2011-11-10 1:41 ` Alexander Graf
2011-11-10 8:14 ` Ingo Molnar
2011-11-08 12:56 ` Arnaldo Carvalho de Melo
2011-11-08 13:40 ` Gerd Hoffmann
2011-11-08 14:32 ` Arnaldo Carvalho de Melo
2011-11-08 15:38 ` Gerd Hoffmann
2011-11-08 16:13 ` Arnaldo Carvalho de Melo
2011-11-09 8:55 ` Ingo Molnar
2011-11-09 8:51 ` Ingo Molnar
2011-11-09 10:40 ` Gerd Hoffmann
2011-11-09 10:50 ` Hagen Paul Pfeifer
2011-11-09 11:55 ` Arnaldo Carvalho de Melo
2011-11-09 12:26 ` Gerd Hoffmann
2011-11-09 12:30 ` Arnaldo Carvalho de Melo
2011-11-09 12:33 ` Arnaldo Carvalho de Melo
2011-11-09 12:46 ` Peter Zijlstra
2011-11-09 12:51 ` Arnaldo Carvalho de Melo
2011-11-09 13:17 ` Ingo Molnar
2011-11-09 19:25 ` Jim Paris
2011-11-09 20:13 ` Arnaldo Carvalho de Melo
2011-11-09 22:32 ` Anca Emanuel
2011-11-10 8:00 ` Ingo Molnar
2011-11-10 8:12 ` Anca Emanuel
2011-11-10 8:39 ` Gerd Hoffmann
2011-11-08 15:43 ` Steven Rostedt
2011-11-09 9:21 ` Ingo Molnar
2011-11-09 12:03 ` Arnaldo Carvalho de Melo
2011-11-09 13:40 ` Américo Wang
2011-11-10 7:47 ` Ingo Molnar
2011-11-07 10:31 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH] KVM: Add wrapper script around QEMU to test kernels Kevin Wolf
2011-11-07 11:38 ` Pekka Enberg
2011-11-07 11:59 ` Kevin Wolf
2011-11-06 16:19 ` Jan Kiszka
2011-11-06 16:30 ` Pekka Enberg
2011-11-06 16:39 ` Jan Kiszka
2011-11-06 17:11 ` Pekka Enberg
2011-11-06 17:23 ` Jan Kiszka
2011-11-06 17:55 ` Pekka Enberg
2011-11-06 16:39 ` Pekka Enberg
2011-11-07 10:11 ` Gerd Hoffmann
2011-11-07 10:18 ` Pekka Enberg
2011-11-06 17:10 ` Anthony Liguori
2011-11-06 17:15 ` Alexander Graf
2011-11-06 17:28 ` Pekka Enberg
2011-11-06 17:30 ` Alexander Graf
2011-11-06 18:05 ` Pekka Enberg
2011-11-06 19:14 ` Paolo Bonzini
2011-11-06 19:19 ` Pekka Enberg
2011-11-06 22:08 ` Frank Ch. Eigler
2011-11-07 6:58 ` Pekka Enberg
2011-11-06 19:11 ` Paolo Bonzini
2011-11-06 19:17 ` Pekka Enberg
2011-11-06 20:01 ` Paolo Bonzini
2011-11-06 20:17 ` Pekka Enberg
2011-11-07 8:00 ` Paolo Bonzini
2011-11-07 8:09 ` Pekka Enberg
2011-11-07 8:20 ` Paolo Bonzini
2011-11-07 8:45 ` Pekka Enberg
2011-11-07 8:52 ` Paolo Bonzini
2011-11-07 8:57 ` Pekka Enberg
2011-11-07 8:13 ` Pekka Enberg
2011-11-06 20:31 ` Pekka Enberg
2011-11-07 10:23 ` Gerd Hoffmann
2011-11-07 10:30 ` Sasha Levin
2011-11-07 11:02 ` Paolo Bonzini
2011-11-07 11:44 ` Pekka Enberg
2011-11-07 12:18 ` Gerd Hoffmann
2011-11-07 12:21 ` Pekka Enberg
2011-11-07 12:26 ` Avi Kivity
2011-11-07 12:29 ` Pekka Enberg
2011-11-07 12:43 ` Ted Ts'o
2011-11-07 12:44 ` Avi Kivity
2011-11-07 11:34 ` Pekka Enberg
2011-11-07 11:57 ` Ingo Molnar
2011-11-07 13:17 ` Anthony Liguori
2011-11-07 12:08 ` Gerd Hoffmann
2011-11-07 12:29 ` Ted Ts'o
2011-11-07 12:42 ` Pekka Enberg
2011-11-07 12:47 ` Ted Ts'o [this message]
2011-11-07 12:59 ` Pekka Enberg
2011-11-07 13:12 ` Pekka Enberg
2011-11-08 13:29 ` Karel Zak
2011-11-08 14:30 ` Pekka Enberg
2011-11-06 13:11 ` Pekka Enberg
2011-11-06 17:09 ` Alexander Graf
2011-11-06 12:27 ` Pekka Enberg
2011-11-08 14:41 ` Avi Kivity
2011-11-08 14:52 ` Christoph Hellwig
2011-11-08 14:55 ` Sasha Levin
2011-11-08 14:57 ` Avi Kivity
2011-11-08 14:59 ` Christoph Hellwig
2011-11-08 17:34 ` Alexander Graf
2011-11-08 17:36 ` Avi Kivity
2011-11-08 15:04 ` Jan Kiszka
2011-11-08 15:26 ` Pekka Enberg
2011-11-08 15:28 ` Christoph Hellwig
-- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2012-05-11 15:46 Alexander Graf
2011-11-07 14:34 青云
2011-08-24 21:38 Alexander Graf
2011-08-25 18:01 ` Blue Swirl
2011-11-06 0:03 ` Alexander Graf
2011-11-06 13:54 ` Jan Kiszka
2012-05-11 13:42 ` Alexander Graf
2012-05-11 14:05 ` Jan Kiszka
2011-08-23 22:16 [Qemu-devel] [PATCH] KVM: Add wrapper script around Qemu " Alexander Graf
2011-08-24 5:19 ` Pekka Enberg
2011-08-24 5:31 ` Américo Wang
2011-08-24 20:35 ` Alexander Graf
2011-08-25 3:44 ` Américo Wang
2011-11-05 23:47 ` Alexander Graf
2011-08-24 8:25 ` Avi Kivity
2011-08-24 9:16 ` Jan Kiszka
2011-08-24 21:06 ` Alexander Graf
2011-08-24 17:40 ` Blue Swirl
2011-08-24 19:17 ` Avi Kivity
2011-08-24 21:17 ` Alexander Graf
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