From: "Michael S. Tsirkin" <mst@redhat.com>
To: Kevin Wolf <kwolf@redhat.com>
Cc: Lucas Meneghel Rodrigues <lmr@redhat.com>,
KVM mailing list <kvm@vger.kernel.org>,
Juan Jose Quintela Carreira <quintela@redhat.com>,
"libvir-list@redhat.com" <libvir-list@redhat.com>,
Marcelo Tosatti <mtosatti@redhat.com>,
QEMU devel <qemu-devel@nongnu.org>, Avi Kivity <avi@redhat.com>
Subject: Re: [Qemu-devel] qemu and qemu.git -> Migration + disk stress introduces qcow2 corruptions
Date: Mon, 14 Nov 2011 12:10:01 +0200 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20111114101001.GD16454@redhat.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <4EC0E638.8030908@redhat.com>
On Mon, Nov 14, 2011 at 10:58:16AM +0100, Kevin Wolf wrote:
> Am 12.11.2011 11:25, schrieb Avi Kivity:
> > On 11/11/2011 12:15 PM, Kevin Wolf wrote:
> >> Am 10.11.2011 22:30, schrieb Anthony Liguori:
> >>> Live migration with qcow2 or any other image format is just not going to work
> >>> right now even with proper clustered storage. I think doing a block level flush
> >>> cache interface and letting block devices decide how to do it is the best approach.
> >>
> >> I would really prefer reusing the existing open/close code. It means
> >> less (duplicated) code, is existing code that is well tested and doesn't
> >> make migration much of a special case.
> >>
> >> If you want to avoid reopening the file on the OS level, we can reopen
> >> only the topmost layer (i.e. the format, but not the protocol) for now
> >> and in 1.1 we can use bdrv_reopen().
> >
> > Intuitively I dislike _reopen style interfaces. If the second open
> > yields different results from the first, does it invalidate any
> > computations in between?
>
> Not sure what results and what computation you mean, but let me clarify
> a bit about bdrv_reopen:
>
> The main purpose of bdrv_reopen() is to change flags, for example toggle
> O_SYNC during runtime in order to allow the guest to toggle WCE. This
> doesn't necessarily mean a close()/open() sequence if there are other
> means to change the flags, like fcntl() (or even using other protocols
> than files).
>
> The idea here was to extend this to invalidate all caches if some
> specific flag is set. As you don't change any other flag, this will
> usually not be a reopen on a lower level.
>
> If we need to use open() though, and it fails (this is really the only
> "different" result that comes to mind) then bdrv_reopen() would fail and
> the old fd would stay in use. Migration would have to fail, but I don't
> think this case is ever needed for reopening after migration.
>
> > What's wrong with just delaying the open?
>
> Nothing, except that with today's code it's harder to do.
>
> Kevin
It seems cleaner, though, doesn't it?
--
MST
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2011-11-14 10:08 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 59+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2011-11-09 16:29 [Qemu-devel] qemu and qemu.git -> Migration + disk stress introduces qcow2 corruptions Lucas Meneghel Rodrigues
2011-11-09 16:39 ` Anthony Liguori
2011-11-09 17:02 ` Avi Kivity
2011-11-09 17:35 ` Anthony Liguori
2011-11-09 19:53 ` Juan Quintela
2011-11-09 20:18 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2011-11-09 20:22 ` Anthony Liguori
2011-11-09 21:00 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2011-11-09 21:01 ` Anthony Liguori
2011-11-10 10:41 ` Kevin Wolf
2011-11-10 16:50 ` Juan Quintela
2011-11-10 17:59 ` Anthony Liguori
2011-11-10 18:00 ` Anthony Liguori
2011-11-09 20:57 ` Juan Quintela
2011-11-10 8:55 ` Avi Kivity
2011-11-10 17:50 ` Juan Quintela
2011-11-10 17:54 ` Anthony Liguori
2011-11-12 10:20 ` Avi Kivity
2011-11-12 13:30 ` Anthony Liguori
2011-11-12 14:36 ` Avi Kivity
2011-11-10 18:27 ` Anthony Liguori
2011-11-10 18:42 ` Daniel P. Berrange
2011-11-10 19:11 ` Anthony Liguori
2011-11-10 20:06 ` Daniel P. Berrange
2011-11-10 20:07 ` Anthony Liguori
2011-11-10 21:30 ` Anthony Liguori
2011-11-11 10:15 ` Kevin Wolf
2011-11-11 14:03 ` Anthony Liguori
2011-11-11 14:29 ` Kevin Wolf
2011-11-11 14:35 ` Anthony Liguori
2011-11-11 14:44 ` Kevin Wolf
2011-11-11 20:38 ` Anthony Liguori
2011-11-12 10:27 ` Avi Kivity
2011-11-12 13:39 ` Anthony Liguori
2011-11-12 14:43 ` Avi Kivity
2011-11-12 16:01 ` Anthony Liguori
2011-11-12 10:25 ` Avi Kivity
2011-11-14 9:58 ` Kevin Wolf
2011-11-14 10:10 ` Michael S. Tsirkin [this message]
2011-11-15 13:28 ` Avi Kivity
2011-11-14 10:16 ` Daniel P. Berrange
2011-11-14 10:24 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2011-11-14 11:08 ` Daniel P. Berrange
2011-11-14 11:21 ` Kevin Wolf
2011-11-14 11:29 ` Daniel P. Berrange
2011-11-14 11:34 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2011-11-14 11:37 ` Daniel P. Berrange
2011-11-14 11:51 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2011-11-14 11:55 ` Daniel P. Berrange
2011-11-14 11:56 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2011-11-14 11:58 ` Daniel P. Berrange
2011-11-14 12:17 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2011-11-14 11:36 ` Gleb Natapov
2011-11-14 11:32 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2011-11-14 14:19 ` Anthony Liguori
2011-11-15 13:20 ` Juan Quintela
2011-11-15 13:56 ` Anthony Liguori
2011-11-09 19:25 ` Juan Quintela
2011-11-09 23:33 ` Lucas Meneghel Rodrigues
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