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From: Alon Levy <alevy@redhat.com>
To: Hans de Goede <hdegoede@redhat.com>
Cc: Barak Azulay <bazulay@redhat.com>,
	Gal Hammer <ghammer@redhat.com>,
	vdsm-devel@lists.fedorahosted.org, qemu-devel@nongnu.org,
	Ayal Baron <abaron@redhat.com>,
	arch@ovirt.org
Subject: Re: [Qemu-devel] converging  around a single guest agent
Date: Wed, 16 Nov 2011 14:07:22 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20111116120722.GZ7140@garlic.redhat.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <4EC36C09.5060805@redhat.com>

On Wed, Nov 16, 2011 at 08:53:45AM +0100, Hans de Goede wrote:
> Hi,
> 
> On 11/15/2011 11:39 PM, Ayal Baron wrote:
> >
> 
> <snip>
> 
> >>If you want to talk about convergence, the discussion should start
> >>around
> >>collecting requirements.  We can then figure out if the two sets of
> >>requirements
> >>are strictly overlapping or if there are any requirements that are
> >>fundamentally
> >>in opposition.
> >
> >Agreed.
> >
> >So vdsm guest agent goal is to ease administration of VMs.  This is not saying much as it is quite broad so I will list what is provided today and some things we need to add:
> >
> >Assistance in VM life-cycle:
> >"desktopShutdown" - Shuts the VM down gracefully from within the guest.
> >"quiesce" - does not exist today.  This is definitely a requirement for us.
> >
> >SSO support for spice sessions (automatically login into guest OS using provided credentials):
> >"desktopLock" - lock current session, used when spice session gets disconnected / before giving a new user access to spice session
> >"desktopLogin"
> >"desktopLogoff"
> >In addition, guest reports relevant info (currently active user, session state)
> >
> >Monitoring and inventory:
> >currently agent sends info periodically, which includes a lot of info which should probably be broken down and served upon request. Info includes -
> >- memory usage
> >- NICs info (name, hw, inet, inet6)
> >- appslist (list of installed apps / rpms)
> >- OS type
> >- guest hostname
> >- internal file systems info (path, fs type, total space, used space)
> >
> 
> <snip>
> 
> If we're gathering requirements and trying to come up with one agent to rule them all, don't forget
> about VDI and the Spice agent. Currently the spice agent handles the following:
> 
> 1) Paravirtual mouse (needed to get mouse coordinates right with multi monitor setups)
> 2) Send client monitor configuration, so that the guest os can adjust its resolution
>    (and number and place of monitors) to match the client
> 3) Copy and paste in a platform neutral manner, if anyone wishes to add this to another agent
>    please, please contact us (me) first. This is easy to get wrong (we went through 2 revisions
>    of the protocol for this).
> 4) Allow the client to request the guest to tone down the bling (for low spec clients)
> 
As long as we are collecting requirements, even if as Ayal said merging
spice requirements is not the OP's intent:

 5) Window management - Agent can set location of windows, report
 existing running applications and locations, get notified when a new
 window is created. For exposing individual applications, this is a
 future requirement.

> Notes:
> 1) All of these are client <-> guest communication, rather then the host <-> guest communication
> which the other agents seem to focus on.
> 
> 2) Getting copy paste right requires a system level guest agent process as well as a per user
> session agent process.
> 

> Regards,
> 
> Hans
> 

  parent reply	other threads:[~2011-11-16 12:07 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 59+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2011-11-15 17:24 [Qemu-devel] converging around a single guest agent Barak Azulay
2011-11-15 17:33 ` Alon Levy
2011-11-16 13:08   ` Gal Hammer
2011-11-15 18:01 ` Perry Myers
2011-11-15 18:08   ` Subhendu Ghosh
2011-11-15 19:45     ` Perry Myers
2011-11-16  6:48       ` Barak Azulay
2011-11-15 19:08 ` Anthony Liguori
2011-11-15 22:39   ` Ayal Baron
2011-11-16  7:53     ` Hans de Goede
2011-11-16  8:16       ` Ayal Baron
2011-11-16 14:59         ` Michael Roth
2011-11-17 15:11           ` Alon Levy
2011-11-16 12:07       ` Alon Levy [this message]
2011-11-16 13:45         ` Dor Laor
2011-11-16 13:47         ` Anthony Liguori
2011-11-16 17:55           ` Hans de Goede
2011-11-17 10:16             ` Alon Levy
2011-11-16 13:36     ` Anthony Liguori
2011-11-16 13:39       ` Dor Laor
2011-11-16 13:42         ` Anthony Liguori
2011-11-16 14:10           ` Ayal Baron
2011-11-16 14:20           ` Paolo Bonzini
2011-11-17  7:17             ` Itamar Heim
2011-11-17 14:31             ` Jamie Lokier
2011-11-16 13:45     ` Anthony Liguori
2011-11-15 19:09 ` Anthony Liguori
2011-11-15 23:01 ` Michael Roth
2011-11-16  0:42   ` Alexander Graf
2011-11-16  7:05     ` Barak Azulay
2011-11-16  8:16       ` Alexander Graf
2011-11-16 12:13         ` Barak Azulay
2011-11-16 15:28           ` Michael Roth
2011-11-16 17:53             ` Barak Azulay
2011-11-16 21:44               ` Michael Roth
2011-11-17  0:03               ` Anthony Liguori
2011-11-17  8:59                 ` Ayal Baron
2011-11-17 14:42                   ` Anthony Liguori
2011-11-16 10:18   ` Daniel P. Berrange
2011-11-16 20:24 ` Adam Litke
2011-11-17  2:09   ` Michael Roth
2011-11-17  8:46   ` Ayal Baron
2011-11-17 14:58     ` Michael Roth
2011-11-17 15:58     ` Adam Litke
2011-11-17 16:14       ` Daniel P. Berrange
2011-11-17 16:53         ` Eric Gaulin
2011-11-25 19:33         ` Barak Azulay
2011-11-17 17:09   ` Barak Azulay
2011-11-18  0:47     ` Luiz Capitulino
2011-11-17  0:48 ` [Qemu-devel] wiki summary Michael Roth
2011-11-17 16:34   ` Barak Azulay
2011-11-17 19:58     ` Michael Roth
2011-11-18 11:25       ` Barak Azulay
2011-11-18 14:10         ` Adam Litke
2011-11-18 14:21         ` Michael Roth
2011-11-24 12:40       ` Dor Laor
2011-11-24 16:47         ` Richard W.M. Jones
2011-11-25 10:07         ` Daniel P. Berrange
2011-11-27 12:19           ` Dor Laor

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