From: Alon Levy <alevy@redhat.com>
To: Hans de Goede <hdegoede@redhat.com>
Cc: Barak Azulay <bazulay@redhat.com>,
Gal Hammer <ghammer@redhat.com>,
vdsm-devel@lists.fedorahosted.org, qemu-devel@nongnu.org,
Ayal Baron <abaron@redhat.com>,
arch@ovirt.org
Subject: Re: [Qemu-devel] converging around a single guest agent
Date: Wed, 16 Nov 2011 14:07:22 +0200 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20111116120722.GZ7140@garlic.redhat.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <4EC36C09.5060805@redhat.com>
On Wed, Nov 16, 2011 at 08:53:45AM +0100, Hans de Goede wrote:
> Hi,
>
> On 11/15/2011 11:39 PM, Ayal Baron wrote:
> >
>
> <snip>
>
> >>If you want to talk about convergence, the discussion should start
> >>around
> >>collecting requirements. We can then figure out if the two sets of
> >>requirements
> >>are strictly overlapping or if there are any requirements that are
> >>fundamentally
> >>in opposition.
> >
> >Agreed.
> >
> >So vdsm guest agent goal is to ease administration of VMs. This is not saying much as it is quite broad so I will list what is provided today and some things we need to add:
> >
> >Assistance in VM life-cycle:
> >"desktopShutdown" - Shuts the VM down gracefully from within the guest.
> >"quiesce" - does not exist today. This is definitely a requirement for us.
> >
> >SSO support for spice sessions (automatically login into guest OS using provided credentials):
> >"desktopLock" - lock current session, used when spice session gets disconnected / before giving a new user access to spice session
> >"desktopLogin"
> >"desktopLogoff"
> >In addition, guest reports relevant info (currently active user, session state)
> >
> >Monitoring and inventory:
> >currently agent sends info periodically, which includes a lot of info which should probably be broken down and served upon request. Info includes -
> >- memory usage
> >- NICs info (name, hw, inet, inet6)
> >- appslist (list of installed apps / rpms)
> >- OS type
> >- guest hostname
> >- internal file systems info (path, fs type, total space, used space)
> >
>
> <snip>
>
> If we're gathering requirements and trying to come up with one agent to rule them all, don't forget
> about VDI and the Spice agent. Currently the spice agent handles the following:
>
> 1) Paravirtual mouse (needed to get mouse coordinates right with multi monitor setups)
> 2) Send client monitor configuration, so that the guest os can adjust its resolution
> (and number and place of monitors) to match the client
> 3) Copy and paste in a platform neutral manner, if anyone wishes to add this to another agent
> please, please contact us (me) first. This is easy to get wrong (we went through 2 revisions
> of the protocol for this).
> 4) Allow the client to request the guest to tone down the bling (for low spec clients)
>
As long as we are collecting requirements, even if as Ayal said merging
spice requirements is not the OP's intent:
5) Window management - Agent can set location of windows, report
existing running applications and locations, get notified when a new
window is created. For exposing individual applications, this is a
future requirement.
> Notes:
> 1) All of these are client <-> guest communication, rather then the host <-> guest communication
> which the other agents seem to focus on.
>
> 2) Getting copy paste right requires a system level guest agent process as well as a per user
> session agent process.
>
> Regards,
>
> Hans
>
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2011-11-16 12:07 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 59+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2011-11-15 17:24 [Qemu-devel] converging around a single guest agent Barak Azulay
2011-11-15 17:33 ` Alon Levy
2011-11-16 13:08 ` Gal Hammer
2011-11-15 18:01 ` Perry Myers
2011-11-15 18:08 ` Subhendu Ghosh
2011-11-15 19:45 ` Perry Myers
2011-11-16 6:48 ` Barak Azulay
2011-11-15 19:08 ` Anthony Liguori
2011-11-15 22:39 ` Ayal Baron
2011-11-16 7:53 ` Hans de Goede
2011-11-16 8:16 ` Ayal Baron
2011-11-16 14:59 ` Michael Roth
2011-11-17 15:11 ` Alon Levy
2011-11-16 12:07 ` Alon Levy [this message]
2011-11-16 13:45 ` Dor Laor
2011-11-16 13:47 ` Anthony Liguori
2011-11-16 17:55 ` Hans de Goede
2011-11-17 10:16 ` Alon Levy
2011-11-16 13:36 ` Anthony Liguori
2011-11-16 13:39 ` Dor Laor
2011-11-16 13:42 ` Anthony Liguori
2011-11-16 14:10 ` Ayal Baron
2011-11-16 14:20 ` Paolo Bonzini
2011-11-17 7:17 ` Itamar Heim
2011-11-17 14:31 ` Jamie Lokier
2011-11-16 13:45 ` Anthony Liguori
2011-11-15 19:09 ` Anthony Liguori
2011-11-15 23:01 ` Michael Roth
2011-11-16 0:42 ` Alexander Graf
2011-11-16 7:05 ` Barak Azulay
2011-11-16 8:16 ` Alexander Graf
2011-11-16 12:13 ` Barak Azulay
2011-11-16 15:28 ` Michael Roth
2011-11-16 17:53 ` Barak Azulay
2011-11-16 21:44 ` Michael Roth
2011-11-17 0:03 ` Anthony Liguori
2011-11-17 8:59 ` Ayal Baron
2011-11-17 14:42 ` Anthony Liguori
2011-11-16 10:18 ` Daniel P. Berrange
2011-11-16 20:24 ` Adam Litke
2011-11-17 2:09 ` Michael Roth
2011-11-17 8:46 ` Ayal Baron
2011-11-17 14:58 ` Michael Roth
2011-11-17 15:58 ` Adam Litke
2011-11-17 16:14 ` Daniel P. Berrange
2011-11-17 16:53 ` Eric Gaulin
2011-11-25 19:33 ` Barak Azulay
2011-11-17 17:09 ` Barak Azulay
2011-11-18 0:47 ` Luiz Capitulino
2011-11-17 0:48 ` [Qemu-devel] wiki summary Michael Roth
2011-11-17 16:34 ` Barak Azulay
2011-11-17 19:58 ` Michael Roth
2011-11-18 11:25 ` Barak Azulay
2011-11-18 14:10 ` Adam Litke
2011-11-18 14:21 ` Michael Roth
2011-11-24 12:40 ` Dor Laor
2011-11-24 16:47 ` Richard W.M. Jones
2011-11-25 10:07 ` Daniel P. Berrange
2011-11-27 12:19 ` Dor Laor
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