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From: Serge Hallyn <serge.hallyn@canonical.com>
To: Paul Moore <pmoore@redhat.com>
Cc: "Stefan Hajnoczi" <stefanha@gmail.com>,
	"Corey Bryant" <coreyb@linux.vnet.ibm.com>,
	"Michael Halcrow" <mhalcrow@google.com>,
	qemu-devel@nongnu.org, "Eric Paris" <eparis@redhat.com>,
	"Ashley D Lai" <adlai@us.ibm.com>, "Avi Kivity" <avi@redhat.com>,
	"Richa Marwaha" <rmarwah@us.ibm.com>,
	"Amit Shah" <amit.shah@redhat.com>,
	"Radim Krčmář" <radimkrcmar@hpx.cz>,
	"Eduardo Terrell Ferrari Otubo" <eotubo@br.ibm.com>,
	"Lee Terrell" <lterrell@us.ibm.com>,
	"George Wilson" <gcwilson@us.ibm.com>
Subject: Re: [Qemu-devel] [RFC] Device sandboxing
Date: Thu, 15 Dec 2011 10:05:16 -0600	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20111215160516.GB5969@sergelap> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <3013046.5WrR1YBbPs@sifl>

Quoting Paul Moore (pmoore@redhat.com):
> On Thursday, December 15, 2011 09:14:11 AM Serge Hallyn wrote:
> > Quoting Corey Bryant (coreyb@linux.vnet.ibm.com):
> > > On 12/14/2011 06:56 PM, Paul Moore wrote:
> > > >On Wednesday, December 14, 2011 11:15:58 AM Serge E. Hallyn wrote:
> > > >>Hey Paul,
> > > >>
> > > >>just wondering, exactly which approache(s) are you prototyping?  Are
> > > >>you touching seccomp2?
> > > >
> > > >The decomposed approach as I felt (well, still do for that matter)
> > > >that the enhanced seccomp stuff could be put to even better use in a
> > > >decomposed mode of operation.
> > > >
> > > >However, earlier this week those of us involved in this effort were
> > > >strongly discouraged (this probably isn't the best term to use, but
> > > >there is a reason I'm a programmer and not an english student) from
> > > >pursuing the decomposed prototype further so work on it has dropped
> > > >off considerably.
> > > >
> > > >I still think it is worth pursuing, if for no other reason than to
> > > >answer questions that right now we can only answer with educated
> > > >guesses, but it is no longer my main focus.  If anyone else is
> > > >interested in this feel free to drop me some email and I can bring
> > > >you up to speed on the current status.
> >
> > Thanks, Paul.  I don't know for sure that I'll have time, but I'd
> > definately be interested in anything you have about current status
> > of that approach.  On my own I would've pursued the seccomp2 way
> > if only because I'll be doing the same for lxc, but if noone else
> > is following up on decomposition I might take a look over break.
> > And as you say, if the design ends up being maintaineable and with
> > acceptable performance overhead, I have no doubt it would be well
> > merged with seccomp2.
> 
> The current status of the prototype is that it is still largely incomplete; 
> most of the "how do I do this?" work is done, now it is just a matter of 
> coding.
> 
> I *think* I've identified all the function calls that the e1000 device 
> emulation makes into the core QEMU code as well as a good spot for forking, 
> most of the implementation is blank (lots of empty function bodies).  About 
> the only part of the implementation that currently has any substance to it is 
> the pipe based message passing and the code trickery that allows us to go from 
> straight functions calls to RPC/IPC.  Neither have been tested yet, and the 
> former isn't as elegant as I would like, but at least they all compile cleanly 
> ... ;)
> 
> As I said earlier, I still plan to allocate some time to working on this, but 
> much less than before.  I'll drop you another email, offlist, and if you've 
> got some interest/time in helping out you're more than welcome to join in.

Thanks, Paul.

-serge

  reply	other threads:[~2011-12-15 16:05 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 31+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2011-12-07 18:25 [Qemu-devel] [RFC] Device sandboxing Corey Bryant
2011-12-07 18:48 ` Anthony Liguori
2011-12-07 19:32   ` Corey Bryant
2011-12-07 19:43     ` Anthony Liguori
2011-12-07 19:52       ` Michael Halcrow
2011-12-07 20:02       ` Corey Bryant
2011-12-07 20:54       ` Eric Paris
2011-12-08  9:40         ` Stefan Hajnoczi
2011-12-11 10:50           ` Dor Laor
2011-12-12 18:54             ` Will Drewry
2011-12-08  9:47     ` Stefan Hajnoczi
2011-12-08 14:39       ` Corey Bryant
2011-12-07 21:20   ` Paul Moore
2011-12-14 17:15     ` Serge E. Hallyn
2011-12-14 23:56       ` Paul Moore
2011-12-15 14:28         ` Corey Bryant
2011-12-15 15:14           ` Serge Hallyn
2011-12-15 15:35             ` Paul Moore
2011-12-15 16:05               ` Serge Hallyn [this message]
2011-12-08 21:51 ` Blue Swirl
2011-12-12 18:30   ` Corey Bryant
2011-12-09 16:17 ` Paul Brook
2011-12-09 16:34   ` Paul Moore
2011-12-09 17:32     ` Paul Brook
2011-12-09 17:49       ` Paul Moore
2011-12-09 18:46         ` Paul Brook
2011-12-09 18:50           ` Paul Moore
2011-12-09 18:59           ` Paul Brook
2011-12-09 19:17             ` Paul Moore
2011-12-10 19:39   ` Blue Swirl
2011-12-11  9:08   ` Avi Kivity

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