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From: Paul Brook <paul@codesourcery.com>
To: Anthony Liguori <aliguori@us.ibm.com>
Cc: "Mark McLoughlin" <markmc@redhat.com>,
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Subject: Re: [Qemu-devel] Please read: make check framework
Date: Mon, 9 Jan 2012 17:47:51 +0000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <201201091747.52115.paul@codesourcery.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <4F0B1016.2010600@us.ibm.com>

> I'm going to apply this series quickly and will start running 'make
> check-quick' as part a sniff test before pushing patches.
> 
> I'd like to request that all maintainers/submaintainers do the same and
> that everyone contributes unit tests to this target.
> 
> The general rules for 'make check-quick':
> 
>   1) It must complete in less than 10 minutes start to finish (the entire
> rule). We can re-examine this over time but for now, it seems like a
> reasonable limit.

No objection in principle, though I'm a bit unclear on the guidelines.
In particular:

- 10 minutes on what hardware?  10 minutes on one of my fat build machines is 
an hour on an average year-old laptop/desktop, and I guess 6+ hours on the 
netbook I use when travelling.  Maybe relating this to the time taken to do a 
clean build would make more sense?

- What level of testing is appropriate? As a maintainer when can/should I 
bounce a patch due to lack of tests? e.g should new device emulation come with 
unit tests? New infrastructure? What about fixes to both of the above, should 
these include regression tests? Given the size of the test surface for many 
components (in particular emulated CPUs), I'm guessing we're looking at 
extremely basic smoke-tests.  Consistent regression tests or any sort of 
architecture conformance tests are going to completely blow your time budget.

Obviously level of testing is always a bit of a judgement call - anyone who 
claims of have complete test coverage is either lying or writing trivially 
uninteresting code.  However given qemu has historically had zero active test 
coverage I'd appreciate some guidance (as both maintainers and contrubutor).

Paul

  parent reply	other threads:[~2012-01-09 17:48 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 40+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2012-01-09 15:56 [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 01/11] tests: mv tests/* -> tests/tcg Anthony Liguori
2012-01-09 15:56 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 02/11] build: split unit test builds to a separate makefile fragment Anthony Liguori
2012-01-09 19:23   ` Andreas Färber
2012-01-09 19:38     ` Anthony Liguori
2012-01-09 15:56 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 03/11] check-qdict: convert to gtest Anthony Liguori
2012-01-09 18:27   ` Luiz Capitulino
2012-01-09 19:15     ` Anthony Liguori
2012-01-09 19:37       ` Luiz Capitulino
2012-01-09 19:26   ` Andreas Färber
2012-01-09 19:39     ` Anthony Liguori
2012-01-09 15:56 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 04/11] check-qfloat: " Anthony Liguori
2012-01-09 15:56 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 05/11] check-qint: " Anthony Liguori
2012-01-09 15:56 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 06/11] check-qstring: " Anthony Liguori
2012-01-09 15:56 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 07/11] check-qlist: " Anthony Liguori
2012-01-09 15:56 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 08/11] check-qjson: " Anthony Liguori
2012-01-09 15:56 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 09/11] check-qjson: enable disabled tests Anthony Liguori
2012-01-09 15:56 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 10/11] test: eliminate libcheck tests and have make check use gtester Anthony Liguori
2012-01-09 19:35   ` Andreas Färber
2012-01-10  9:17   ` Gerd Hoffmann
2012-01-10 13:10     ` Anthony Liguori
2012-01-09 15:56 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 11/11] check: add a check-report and check-help target Anthony Liguori
2012-01-09 20:00   ` Andreas Färber
2012-01-09 16:04 ` [Qemu-devel] Please read: make check framework Anthony Liguori
2012-01-09 16:16   ` Avi Kivity
2012-01-09 16:28     ` Anthony Liguori
2012-01-09 16:47   ` Daniel Gollub
2012-01-09 17:47   ` Paul Brook [this message]
2012-01-09 19:28     ` Anthony Liguori
2012-01-09 20:57       ` Andreas Färber
2012-01-09 21:42         ` Anthony Liguori
2012-01-09 23:22           ` Andreas Färber
2012-01-09 23:56             ` Anthony Liguori
2012-01-10  9:57               ` Kevin Wolf
2012-01-10 13:11                 ` Anthony Liguori
2012-01-10 14:49               ` Andreas Färber
2012-01-10 15:39                 ` Peter Maydell
2012-01-09 20:00   ` Stefan Weil
2012-01-10  8:39   ` Stefan Hajnoczi
2012-01-10 13:21     ` Luiz Capitulino
2012-01-09 19:18 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 01/11] tests: mv tests/* -> tests/tcg Andreas Färber

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