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From: "Michael S. Tsirkin" <mst@redhat.com>
To: Stefan Berger <stefanb@linux.vnet.ibm.com>
Cc: qemu-devel@nongnu.org, andreas.niederl@iaik.tugraz.at
Subject: Re: [Qemu-devel] [PATCH V14 2/7] Add TPM (frontend) hardware interface (TPM TIS) to Qemu
Date: Wed, 22 Feb 2012 01:08:46 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20120221230845.GD9062@redhat.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <4F441B08.6000306@linux.vnet.ibm.com>

On Tue, Feb 21, 2012 at 05:30:32PM -0500, Stefan Berger wrote:
> On 02/21/2012 02:58 PM, Michael S. Tsirkin wrote:
> >On Tue, Feb 21, 2012 at 10:05:26AM -0500, Stefan Berger wrote:
> >>On 02/21/2012 07:18 AM, Michael S. Tsirkin wrote:
> >>>
> >>When the backend delivers the response it checks whether the
> >>interface is used in interrupt mode and raises the interrupt.
> >IMO it's the frontend that should send interrupts.
> >Yes it kind of works for isa anyway, but e.g. pci
> >needs to update configuration etc.
> >
> 
> The code that causes the interrupt to be raised is in the frontend.
> The function doing that is invoked via callback from the backend.
> This should be ok?

Absolutely.

> >>The
> >>backend enters the frontend code with a callback. In this function
> >>also a signal is sent that may wake up the main thread that, upon
> >>suspend, may be waiting for the last command to be processed and be
> >>sleeping on a condition variable.
> >>
> >>I now added a function to the backend interface that is invoked by
> >>the frontend to notify the backend of a TPM request. The backend
> >>code can then either notify a thread (passthrough and libtpms
> >>driver) or create a response right away and invoke that callback to
> >>the front-end to deliver the response (null driver). How frontend
> >>and backend handle notifications is isolated to the frontend and
> >>backend with some backends (libtpms, passthough) sharing the code
> >>for how the notification is done.
> >>
> >>Stefan
> >Right. And all the locking/threading can then be internal to the backend.
> >
> 
> Do you really want to replace code like this in the frontend:
> 
> qemu_mutex_lock(&s->state_lock)
> [...]
> qemu_mutex_unlock(&s->state_lock)
> 
> 
> with
> 
> 
> s->be_driver->ops->state_lock(s->be_driver)
> [...]
> s->be_driver->ops->state_unlock(s->be_driver))
> 
> 
> where the backend starts protecting frontend data structures ?

It's ugly I hope you can do something saner:
ops->send_command(....)
with command encapsulating the relevant info.

> At the moment there are two backends that need threading: the
> libtpms and passthrough backends. Both will require locking of
> datastructures that belong to the frontend. Only the null driver
> doesn't need a thread and the main thread can call into the backend,
> create the response and call via callback into the frontend to
> deliver the repsonse. If structures are protected via mutxes then
> only the NULL driver (which we don't want anyway) may end up
> grabbing mutexes that really aren't necessary while the two other
> backends need them. I don't see the mitextes as problematic. The
> frontend at least protects its data structures for the callbacks and
> other API calls it offers and they simply are thread-safe.
> 
>     Stefan

Worst case, you can take a qemu mutex. Is tpm very
performance-sensitive to make contention on that
lock a problem?

  reply	other threads:[~2012-02-21 23:09 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 41+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2011-12-14 13:43 [Qemu-devel] [PATCH V14 0/7] Qemu Trusted Platform Module (TPM) integration Stefan Berger
2011-12-14 13:43 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH V14 1/7] Support for TPM command line options Stefan Berger
2011-12-14 13:43 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH V14 2/7] Add TPM (frontend) hardware interface (TPM TIS) to Qemu Stefan Berger
2012-02-20  8:51   ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2012-02-20 15:48     ` Stefan Berger
2012-02-20 19:37       ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2012-02-20 19:58         ` Stefan Berger
2012-02-23 20:47       ` Stefan Berger
2012-02-20 22:02   ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2012-02-21  0:43     ` Stefan Berger
2012-02-21  3:18       ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2012-02-21 11:19         ` Stefan Berger
2012-02-21 12:18           ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2012-02-21 15:05             ` Stefan Berger
2012-02-21 19:58               ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2012-02-21 22:30                 ` Stefan Berger
2012-02-21 23:08                   ` Michael S. Tsirkin [this message]
2012-02-22  0:21                     ` Stefan Berger
2012-02-22  4:34                       ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2012-02-22 15:03                         ` Stefan Berger
2012-02-22 17:55                     ` Stefan Berger
2012-03-02 12:02                     ` Stefan Berger
2012-03-04 22:59                       ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2012-03-05 15:44                         ` Stefan Berger
2012-03-05 15:46                         ` Stefan Berger
2011-12-14 13:43 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH V14 3/7] Add a debug register Stefan Berger
2011-12-14 13:43 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH V14 4/7] Build the TPM frontend code Stefan Berger
2011-12-14 13:43 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH V14 5/7] Add a TPM Passthrough backend driver implementation Stefan Berger
2012-02-20 19:51   ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2012-02-20 20:25     ` Stefan Berger
2012-02-20 21:15       ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2012-02-21  1:03         ` Stefan Berger
2012-03-21 23:27           ` Anthony Liguori
2012-02-20 20:01   ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2012-02-20 21:12     ` Stefan Berger
2012-02-20 21:30   ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2012-02-21  0:30     ` Stefan Berger
2011-12-14 13:43 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH V14 6/7] Introduce --enable-tpm-passthrough configure option Stefan Berger
2011-12-14 13:43 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH V14 7/7] Add fd parameter for TPM passthrough driver Stefan Berger
2012-01-12 16:59 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH V14 0/7] Qemu Trusted Platform Module (TPM) integration Paul Moore
2012-01-16 19:21   ` Paul Moore

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