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From: Gleb Natapov <gleb@redhat.com>
To: Avi Kivity <avi@redhat.com>
Cc: kvm list <kvm@vger.kernel.org>,
	qemu-devel <qemu-devel@nongnu.org>,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
	KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki <kamezawa.hiroyu@jp.fujitsu.com>
Subject: Re: [Qemu-devel] [PATCH] kvm: notify host when guest paniced
Date: Wed, 29 Feb 2012 12:44:49 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20120229104449.GG24600@redhat.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <4F4DF913.5030809@redhat.com>

On Wed, Feb 29, 2012 at 12:08:19PM +0200, Avi Kivity wrote:
> On 02/29/2012 12:05 PM, Gleb Natapov wrote:
> > On Wed, Feb 29, 2012 at 12:00:41PM +0200, Avi Kivity wrote:
> > > On 02/29/2012 11:55 AM, Gleb Natapov wrote:
> > > > > >
> > > > > 
> > > > > How about using a virtio-serial channel for this?  You can transfer any
> > > > > amount of information (including the dump itself).
> > > > > 
> > > > Isn't it unreliable after the guest panicked? 
> > > 
> > > So is calling hypercalls, or dumping, or writing to the screen.  Of
> > > course calling a hypercall is simpler and so is more reliable.
> > > 
> > Yes, crash can be so severe that it is not even detected by a kernel
> > itself, so not OOPS message even printed. But in most cases if kernel is
> > functional enough to print OOPS it is functional enough to call single
> > hypercall instruction.
> 
> Why not print the oops to virtio-serial?  Or even just a regular serial
> port?  That's what bare metal does.
> 
The more interface is complex the more chances it will fail during
panic. Regular serial is likely more reliable than virtio-serial.
Hypercall is likely more reliable than uart. On serial user can
fake panic notification. Can this be problematic?

> > > > Having special kdump
> > > > kernel that transfers dump to a host via virtio-serial channel though
> > > > sounds interesting. May be that's what you mean.
> > > 
> > > Yes.  The "panic, starting dump" signal should be initiated by the
> > > panicking kernel though, in case the dump fails.
> > > 
> > Then panic hypercall sounds like a reasonable solution.
> 
> It is, but I'm trying to see if we can get away with doing nothing.
> 
Fair enough.

--
			Gleb.

  parent reply	other threads:[~2012-02-29 10:45 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 36+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2012-02-27  3:01 [Qemu-devel] [PATCH] kvm: notify host when guest paniced Wen Congyang
2012-02-27  3:05 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH]qemu: deal with guest paniced event Wen Congyang
2012-02-27  8:59   ` Jan Kiszka
2012-03-01 16:51   ` Luiz Capitulino
2012-03-02  0:40     ` Wen Congyang
2012-02-27 15:08 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH] kvm: notify host when guest paniced Jan Kiszka
2012-02-28  5:26   ` Wen Congyang
2012-02-28  8:07     ` Wen Congyang
2012-02-28  8:23   ` Wen Congyang
2012-02-28  9:34     ` Jan Kiszka
2012-02-28  9:42       ` Wen Congyang
2012-02-28 10:19         ` Jan Kiszka
2012-02-28 10:45           ` Gleb Natapov
2012-02-29  1:08             ` Wen Congyang
2012-02-29  9:36               ` Gleb Natapov
2012-02-29 10:06                 ` Wen Congyang
2012-02-28 11:23 ` Avi Kivity
2012-02-29  1:29   ` Wen Congyang
2012-02-29  9:49     ` Avi Kivity
2012-02-29  9:55       ` Gleb Natapov
2012-02-29 10:00         ` Avi Kivity
2012-02-29 10:05           ` Gleb Natapov
2012-02-29 10:08             ` Avi Kivity
2012-02-29 10:17               ` Wen Congyang
2012-02-29 10:39                 ` Avi Kivity
2012-03-01  3:34                   ` Wen Congyang
2012-03-01  5:21                   ` Wen Congyang
2012-02-29 10:44               ` Gleb Natapov [this message]
2012-02-29 10:48                 ` Avi Kivity
2012-02-29 10:52                   ` Gleb Natapov
2012-02-29  9:58       ` Daniel P. Berrange
2012-02-29 10:05         ` Avi Kivity
2012-02-29 10:19           ` Daniel P. Berrange
2012-02-29 10:44             ` Avi Kivity
2012-02-29 10:31           ` Wen Congyang
2012-02-29 10:46             ` Avi Kivity

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