From: Gleb Natapov <gleb@redhat.com>
To: Avi Kivity <avi@redhat.com>
Cc: kvm list <kvm@vger.kernel.org>,
qemu-devel <qemu-devel@nongnu.org>,
linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki <kamezawa.hiroyu@jp.fujitsu.com>
Subject: Re: [Qemu-devel] [PATCH] kvm: notify host when guest paniced
Date: Wed, 29 Feb 2012 12:44:49 +0200 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20120229104449.GG24600@redhat.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <4F4DF913.5030809@redhat.com>
On Wed, Feb 29, 2012 at 12:08:19PM +0200, Avi Kivity wrote:
> On 02/29/2012 12:05 PM, Gleb Natapov wrote:
> > On Wed, Feb 29, 2012 at 12:00:41PM +0200, Avi Kivity wrote:
> > > On 02/29/2012 11:55 AM, Gleb Natapov wrote:
> > > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > How about using a virtio-serial channel for this? You can transfer any
> > > > > amount of information (including the dump itself).
> > > > >
> > > > Isn't it unreliable after the guest panicked?
> > >
> > > So is calling hypercalls, or dumping, or writing to the screen. Of
> > > course calling a hypercall is simpler and so is more reliable.
> > >
> > Yes, crash can be so severe that it is not even detected by a kernel
> > itself, so not OOPS message even printed. But in most cases if kernel is
> > functional enough to print OOPS it is functional enough to call single
> > hypercall instruction.
>
> Why not print the oops to virtio-serial? Or even just a regular serial
> port? That's what bare metal does.
>
The more interface is complex the more chances it will fail during
panic. Regular serial is likely more reliable than virtio-serial.
Hypercall is likely more reliable than uart. On serial user can
fake panic notification. Can this be problematic?
> > > > Having special kdump
> > > > kernel that transfers dump to a host via virtio-serial channel though
> > > > sounds interesting. May be that's what you mean.
> > >
> > > Yes. The "panic, starting dump" signal should be initiated by the
> > > panicking kernel though, in case the dump fails.
> > >
> > Then panic hypercall sounds like a reasonable solution.
>
> It is, but I'm trying to see if we can get away with doing nothing.
>
Fair enough.
--
Gleb.
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2012-02-29 10:45 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 36+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2012-02-27 3:01 [Qemu-devel] [PATCH] kvm: notify host when guest paniced Wen Congyang
2012-02-27 3:05 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH]qemu: deal with guest paniced event Wen Congyang
2012-02-27 8:59 ` Jan Kiszka
2012-03-01 16:51 ` Luiz Capitulino
2012-03-02 0:40 ` Wen Congyang
2012-02-27 15:08 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH] kvm: notify host when guest paniced Jan Kiszka
2012-02-28 5:26 ` Wen Congyang
2012-02-28 8:07 ` Wen Congyang
2012-02-28 8:23 ` Wen Congyang
2012-02-28 9:34 ` Jan Kiszka
2012-02-28 9:42 ` Wen Congyang
2012-02-28 10:19 ` Jan Kiszka
2012-02-28 10:45 ` Gleb Natapov
2012-02-29 1:08 ` Wen Congyang
2012-02-29 9:36 ` Gleb Natapov
2012-02-29 10:06 ` Wen Congyang
2012-02-28 11:23 ` Avi Kivity
2012-02-29 1:29 ` Wen Congyang
2012-02-29 9:49 ` Avi Kivity
2012-02-29 9:55 ` Gleb Natapov
2012-02-29 10:00 ` Avi Kivity
2012-02-29 10:05 ` Gleb Natapov
2012-02-29 10:08 ` Avi Kivity
2012-02-29 10:17 ` Wen Congyang
2012-02-29 10:39 ` Avi Kivity
2012-03-01 3:34 ` Wen Congyang
2012-03-01 5:21 ` Wen Congyang
2012-02-29 10:44 ` Gleb Natapov [this message]
2012-02-29 10:48 ` Avi Kivity
2012-02-29 10:52 ` Gleb Natapov
2012-02-29 9:58 ` Daniel P. Berrange
2012-02-29 10:05 ` Avi Kivity
2012-02-29 10:19 ` Daniel P. Berrange
2012-02-29 10:44 ` Avi Kivity
2012-02-29 10:31 ` Wen Congyang
2012-02-29 10:46 ` Avi Kivity
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