From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([208.118.235.92]:40520) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1S2h9M-0006QR-TV for qemu-devel@nongnu.org; Wed, 29 Feb 2012 05:53:08 -0500 Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1S2h9I-0000Rq-58 for qemu-devel@nongnu.org; Wed, 29 Feb 2012 05:52:48 -0500 Received: from mx1.redhat.com ([209.132.183.28]:40337) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1S2h9H-0000Rb-T0 for qemu-devel@nongnu.org; Wed, 29 Feb 2012 05:52:44 -0500 Date: Wed, 29 Feb 2012 12:52:35 +0200 From: Gleb Natapov Message-ID: <20120229105235.GH24600@redhat.com> References: <4F4AF1FB.6000903@cn.fujitsu.com> <4F4CB926.6050600@redhat.com> <4F4D7F5E.5040202@cn.fujitsu.com> <4F4DF4C6.90609@redhat.com> <20120229095557.GE24600@redhat.com> <4F4DF749.7060507@redhat.com> <20120229100550.GF24600@redhat.com> <4F4DF913.5030809@redhat.com> <20120229104449.GG24600@redhat.com> <4F4E0299.9080800@redhat.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <4F4E0299.9080800@redhat.com> Subject: Re: [Qemu-devel] [PATCH] kvm: notify host when guest paniced List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , To: Avi Kivity Cc: kvm list , qemu-devel , linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki On Wed, Feb 29, 2012 at 12:48:57PM +0200, Avi Kivity wrote: > On 02/29/2012 12:44 PM, Gleb Natapov wrote: > > > > > > > > > Yes, crash can be so severe that it is not even detected by a kernel > > > > itself, so not OOPS message even printed. But in most cases if kernel is > > > > functional enough to print OOPS it is functional enough to call single > > > > hypercall instruction. > > > > > > Why not print the oops to virtio-serial? Or even just a regular serial > > > port? That's what bare metal does. > > > > > The more interface is complex the more chances it will fail during > > panic. Regular serial is likely more reliable than virtio-serial. > > Hypercall is likely more reliable than uart. On serial user can > > fake panic notification. > > The serial device is under control of the kernel, so the user can only > access it if the kernel so allows. > Yes, but if we will hijack UART for panic notification VM user will not be able to use it for anything else. virtio-serial have many channels, but AFAIK it does not work at early stages of boot process. -- Gleb.