From: Alon Levy <alevy@redhat.com>
To: Luiz Capitulino <lcapitulino@redhat.com>
Cc: Avi Kivity <avi@redhat.com>,
qemu-devel@nongnu.org, Anthony Liguori <anthony@codemonkey.ws>,
Gerd Hoffmann <kraxel@redhat.com>
Subject: Re: [Qemu-devel] [PATCH v2 1/2] console: add hw_screen_dump_async
Date: Tue, 6 Mar 2012 16:23:09 +0200 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20120306142309.GE2240@garlic.redhat.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20120306105342.5921e785@doriath.home>
On Tue, Mar 06, 2012 at 10:53:42AM -0300, Luiz Capitulino wrote:
> On Tue, 06 Mar 2012 07:51:29 -0600
> Anthony Liguori <anthony@codemonkey.ws> wrote:
>
> > On 03/06/2012 07:16 AM, Alon Levy wrote:
> > > On Tue, Mar 06, 2012 at 09:24:27AM -0300, Luiz Capitulino wrote:
> > >> On Tue, 06 Mar 2012 08:36:34 +0100
> > >> Gerd Hoffmann<kraxel@redhat.com> wrote:
> > >>
> > >>> Hi,
> > >>>
> > >>>>> How would the parallel execution facility be opaque to the implementer?
> > >>>>> screendump returns, screendump_async needs to pass a closure. You can
> > >>>>> automatically generate any amount of code, but you can only have a
> > >>>>> single function implementation with longjmp/coroutine, or having a
> > >>>>> saparate thread per command but that would mean taking locks for
> > >>>>> anything not trivial, which avoids the no-change-to-implementation. Is
> > >>>>> this what you have in mind?
> > >>>>
> > >>>> It would not be opaque to the implementer. But it would avoid
> > >>>> introducing new commands and events, instead we have a unified mechanism
> > >>>> to signal completion.
> > >>>
> > >>> Ok. We have a async mechanism today: .mhandler.cmd_async = ...
> > >>>
> > >>> I know it has its problems like no cancelation and is deprecated and
> > >>> all. But still: how about using it as interim until QAPI-based async
> > >>> monitor support is ready? We could unbreak qxl screendumps without
> > >>> having to introduce a new (but temporary!) screendump_async command +
> > >>> completion event.
> > >>
> > >> There are a few problems here, but the blocking one is that a command
> > >> can't go from sync to async. This is an incompatible change.
> > >>
> > >> If you mind adding the temporary command and if this issue is so rare
> > >> that none can reproduce it, then I'd suggest to wait for 1.2.
> > >>
> > >
> > > There are two options really:
> > > 1. revert the patches that changed qxl screendump to save the ppm
> > > before (possibly) updating the framebuffer.
> > > 2. introduce a new command that is really async
> > >
> > > The third option, what Gerd proposes, doesn't break the blocking chain
> > > going from the A, the dual purpose spice client and libvirt client,
> > > through libvirt, qemu, spice and back to A.
> > >
> > > If no one can reproduce the block then it would seem 1 makes sense.
> >
> > So let's start with a reproducible test case that demonstrates the problem
> > before we start introducing new commands then if there's doubt about the nature
> > of the problem.
>
> Completely agree, I was going to suggest that too.
>
So cutting off a part of the email is a good way to win arguments? cool
trick. I agree a reproducer is a good idea, but as I mentioned in the
cut part, doing the update area without keeping the monitor waiting
improves performance of the guest by letting it do io exits. Why is that
a bad thing?
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2012-03-06 14:23 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 38+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2012-03-05 14:16 [Qemu-devel] [PATCH v2 1/2] console: add hw_screen_dump_async Alon Levy
2012-03-05 14:16 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH v2 2/2] add qmp screendump-async Alon Levy
2012-03-05 14:33 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH v2 1/2] console: add hw_screen_dump_async Anthony Liguori
2012-03-05 15:17 ` Alon Levy
2012-03-05 15:56 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH v3 0/3] screendump async command Alon Levy
2012-03-05 15:56 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH v3 1/3] monitor, console: add QEVENT_SCREEN_DUMP_COMPLETE Alon Levy
2012-03-05 15:56 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH v3 2/3] console: add hw_screen_dump_async Alon Levy
2012-03-05 15:56 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH v3 3/3] add qmp screendump-async Alon Levy
2012-03-05 17:17 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH v3 0/3] screendump async command Anthony Liguori
2012-03-05 17:20 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH v2 1/2] console: add hw_screen_dump_async Avi Kivity
2012-03-05 17:27 ` Anthony Liguori
2012-03-05 17:29 ` Avi Kivity
2012-03-05 17:56 ` Luiz Capitulino
2012-03-05 18:16 ` Anthony Liguori
2012-03-05 18:22 ` Avi Kivity
2012-03-05 19:32 ` Anthony Liguori
2012-03-05 17:31 ` Luiz Capitulino
2012-03-05 18:09 ` Alon Levy
2012-03-05 18:17 ` Avi Kivity
2012-03-05 18:58 ` Alon Levy
2012-03-05 19:45 ` Luiz Capitulino
2012-03-06 7:36 ` Gerd Hoffmann
2012-03-06 7:43 ` Alon Levy
2012-03-06 7:56 ` Alon Levy
2012-03-06 8:10 ` Gerd Hoffmann
2012-03-06 9:35 ` Alon Levy
2012-03-06 12:24 ` Luiz Capitulino
2012-03-06 13:16 ` Alon Levy
2012-03-06 13:51 ` Anthony Liguori
2012-03-06 13:53 ` Luiz Capitulino
2012-03-06 14:23 ` Alon Levy [this message]
2012-03-06 15:07 ` Anthony Liguori
2012-03-06 15:56 ` Alon Levy
2012-03-06 16:02 ` Alon Levy
2012-03-06 16:16 ` Anthony Liguori
2012-03-06 16:26 ` Alon Levy
2012-03-06 16:47 ` Anthony Liguori
2012-03-07 6:57 ` Gerd Hoffmann
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